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Ping Tung

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49. How do you intend to seperate the killers and oppressors from the ordinary folks?

Wed Mar 13, 2024, 09:19 PM

Mar 2024

What's the difference between some killer "running amok" and some other killer dropping bombs by "just following orders" killing civilians? Was the bombardier on the Enola Gay "running amok" or just some stooge "doing his duty"? Did the Hamas killers think they were just "doing their duty" by butchering Israelis?

I have no sympathy for anyone who kills the innocents no matter the what the rationale or cause is.

How many people died in Iraq to save us from Saddam's WMD's? Or Asians to protect us from the "falling dominoes"?

Patriots like to talk about dying for their country. They seldom talk about killing for their country.
Bertrand Russell

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Should US keep arming Israel? Poll finds most Americans want weapon shipments to stop [View all] DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 OP

So the margin of error is pretty big TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #1

3.5 percentage points is not a "pretty big" margin of error, DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #2

We both intend on voting for President Biden TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #3

I do NOT support what Israel is doing now. DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #15

Bibi is not our alli. Butterflylady Mar 2024 #28

Netanyahu is not loved in Israel Mossfern Mar 2024 #53

Whatever the 'intent' of Hamas, they do not have the ability DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #56

If it were the intent of Israel to level Gaza Mossfern Mar 2024 #59

I agree with what you wrote. Delmette2.0 Mar 2024 #50

two things lapfog_1 Mar 2024 #10

I never claimed it would make them 'stop'.... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #54

or they align with someone else... possibly Russia lapfog_1 Mar 2024 #61

So anyone who doesn't support Israel Chautauquas Mar 2024 #5

It's not a complicated post TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #6

I would agree with what you said about Hamas Chautauquas Mar 2024 #7

Trump is a rapist, so I doubt he would say that. emulatorloo Mar 2024 #14

And the IDF is comprised of child and women murderers, DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #16

Hamas was not broken a couple months ago so why TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #34

Have you ever seen what starvation does to a body. Especially a child. Butterflylady Mar 2024 #29

True. It was very a uncomplicated attempt to poison the well. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2024 #36

It was not TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #40

Nice false dichotomy? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2024 #42

I support Israel's right of self defense TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #46

Leveling Gaza is NOT "self-defense". It is ATROCITY.... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #57

I can understand going after Hamas, but appleannie1 Mar 2024 #4

Do you really believe that has happened? TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #8

A combination of bullets, bombs, artillery fire, and collapsing buildings killed many ... patphil Mar 2024 #9

Your "As for eliminating Hamas" includes no actual TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #20

That's my point exactly. patphil Mar 2024 #26

No, not with bullets--- with AMERICAN BOMBS. DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #17

Do you not realize where this is happening? Butterflylady Mar 2024 #32

NO, Israel did not kill thousands of children with bullets... BIG BOMBS DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #58

It's a fairly clever push poll. Mosby Mar 2024 #11

Israel may think they are fighting a war with Hamas, and I suppose they are--- DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #19

The poll question is extremely pushy Sympthsical Mar 2024 #12

A GIGO poll Beastly Boy Mar 2024 #13

No, of course, they only drop big bombs on their heads DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #18

Your reply does nothing to justify the garbage in the phrasing of that poll question. Beastly Boy Mar 2024 #21

+1 BuddhaGirl Mar 2024 #31

Yes. Oneironaut Mar 2024 #22

I wonder how many would respond positively sarisataka Mar 2024 #23

No one at DU would say arm Palestinians. nt PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #39

The USA is already the biggest arms dealer in the world. Ping Tung Mar 2024 #24

So you're a pacifist? Mosby Mar 2024 #30

I am a pacifist. Ping Tung Mar 2024 #33

What is the attraction for pacifists for the aggressors TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #35

What "preferred status"? Ping Tung Mar 2024 #38

Letting them run amok in the name of pacifism TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #47

How do you intend to seperate the killers and oppressors from the ordinary folks? Ping Tung Mar 2024 #49

Yep.. they should be funding their own endeavors... Chakaconcarne Mar 2024 #25

I am in favor of withholding aid unless some conditions are met.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2024 #27

Our military aid to Israel is a 10 year commitment. It was renewed for FY 2019-2028 LeftInTX Mar 2024 #37

Try reading the document you linked. PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #41

Yes, it takes congress to invalidate like I said, "Groups call upon Congress" LeftInTX Mar 2024 #43

"There is no statutory requirement for the executive branch to notify Congress" page 32 PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #45

Are you going to correct yourself or tell me I am wrong again? PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #48

Well, thanks to the Republicans, Israel isn't getting extra aid DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #60

I stand with our allies nt GuppyGal Mar 2024 #44

Putting aside how people feel about the war.......... Takket Mar 2024 #51

They do, Israel's defense budget is 24 billion per year Mosby Mar 2024 #63

Stop the shipments now. David__77 Mar 2024 #52

A little context goes a long way TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #55

Whatever Hamas "promotes", does not excuse Israeli actions NOW.... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #62

So you think the Israelis are like the Nazis? Mosby Mar 2024 #64