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bigtree

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Fri Mar 15, 2024, 09:44 AM Mar 2024

I'm going to say it, and you can place yourself where you want on this [View all]

...your choice, not mine.

The internet is full of trolls calling for Garland to resign this morning.

The complaints took off after the exoneration by Hur, sparked by people who think it's more important to highlight the salacious things Hur included in the report and set hair on fire over them, instead of highlighting the exoneration as the president did, and move on.

Yesterday DA Bragg wrote an order delaying the hush money trial and said in as clear language as anyone can read that "the timing of the USAO's productions is the result solely of the defendant's delay."

Instead of blaming Trump for the delay, as the DA clearly did in that order, a mantra was started on the internet that U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland was responsible for supposedly waiting a year to dump the documents this week.

Never mind that Bragg cited SDNY as the branch responsible for filling out discovery motions.

Never mind that the AG doesn't monitor the discovery processes of state prosecutions, or that the AG exercising that kind of heavyhanded oversight would make a lie out of any assertion that those prosecutions are completely separate from the man Trump's political rival in this election appointed.

The calls this morning for Merrick Garland to resign are just off the hook, and I've been participating in social media for long enough to know when I see deliberate propaganda.

It's not enough to defend our own personal reasons for opposing the AG by stating the obvious right to do so. it should come with some reason or logic that stands up to the fact that this man is still following through with the process of accountability which began in the Fall of 2021with the hiring of Tom Windom to investigate the Trump WH (this investigator still active in court today on the election interference charges).

When you come for the AG of a president who has NEVER said ONE WORD of complaint against him, it should be expected that you come with something more than an internet meme.

When you come at the AG who's not only responsible for prosecuting over a 1000 white supremacist, Trump-supporting Capitol rioters, but hired the man who brought two multi-felony indictments against the former president you need to come with more than absurd charges that he's a 'republican mole,' or maga or any of the other denigrating things people feel free to throw at him in front of his efforts.

And, remember... do remember. There are plenty of people who don't share our interest in justice who have been dragging President Biden's AG, the man who prosecuted them, for years now.

How in the world do people making these calls for his resignation think they are received on the other side? I mean....



Right?

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Excellent post, bigtree. Thank you! brer cat Mar 2024 #1
Nailed it as always malaise Mar 2024 #2
If you're happy with our side scrambling for trial dates in 2024 while a second Trump term remains distinctly possible BeyondGeography Mar 2024 #3
I only see a lot of sandbaggers on MOMFUDSKI Mar 2024 #4
Thank you. Elessar Zappa Mar 2024 #5
Bragg clearly blamed BOTH... getagrip_already Mar 2024 #6
What you see as an apologist, others see as defending not a man, but reality. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #8
What was it kelly conway said about reality? getagrip_already Mar 2024 #9
That's just the thing, there are no alternative facts in this situation Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #17
Garland was clueless, which IS the problem getagrip_already Mar 2024 #19
"Clueless" is your opinion. Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #20
But none are as easy! BootinUp Mar 2024 #22
A tangled web, indeed. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #43
IMO Garland has been a poor AG, didn't rise to the moment of the most severe threatl... brush Mar 2024 #78
Laurence Tribe now calls Garland "Mr. Speedy" BeyondGeography Mar 2024 #79
Laurence Tribe is correct. It's funny yet maddening sarcasm as... brush Mar 2024 #85
Sarcasm, no? (no text) returnee Mar 2024 #97
And yet Laurence Tribe isn't always right NanaCat Mar 2024 #103
That is a false statement Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #94
Late in appointing SC Smith even. Should've done it a year earlier. brush Mar 2024 #101
You clearly don't understand what justifies appointing a Special Counsel Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #109
We've all got opinions. No way I agree with yours. brush Mar 2024 #112
"Just two days after trump declared his candidacy" is a red herring Goodheart Mar 2024 #142
Why should a Special Counsel have been appointed sooner? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #144
Looks like verifiable as opinions. PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #107
Note: the link contains a list of verifiable facts and dates. Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #110
Did not read article, just humored by link title. PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #115
Well said and thanks for that post. emulatorloo Mar 2024 #90
Nah, yr just blaming anybody and everyone EXCEPT Trump and his legal team. emulatorloo Mar 2024 #89
An incontrovertible inconvenient fact: Bobstandard Mar 2024 #10
Andrew Weissmann worked for SDNY gab13by13 Mar 2024 #13
I saw that interview... getagrip_already Mar 2024 #18
The internet/social media creates an insatiable, impatient hunger for quick and simple solutions Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #7
You nailed it. ShazzieB Mar 2024 #44
Where I get my news I see zero people calling for Garland to resign. gab13by13 Mar 2024 #11
Agreed. ShazzieB Mar 2024 #56
Garland has been an unmitigated disaster. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #12
you know the people in that song Trump plays before his rallies? The 'Jan. 6 Singers?' bigtree Mar 2024 #32
Well put. The OP is distractive from the REAL issue with Garland Goodheart Mar 2024 #116
The internet needs solutions and scapegoats and it needs them NOW. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #14
I respect your opinions and always click on your posts gab13by13 Mar 2024 #24
I don't think calling for his head is helpful at this point. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #30
I could not agree more, gab13by13 Mar 2024 #34
Because if he resigned the trolls wouldn't be able to call for his head on a daily basis AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #104
The frustration by some is not so much NOW but long it has been and PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #118
Let's just say I'd much prefer a new Attorney General... dchill Mar 2024 #15
And Glenn Kirschner is just the man for the job. Ligyron Mar 2024 #60
Hindsight is 20/20. nt hay rick Mar 2024 #16
Hang in there, bigtree Hekate Mar 2024 #21
I agree, bigtree. Joe, unlike his predecessor, really DOES pick the best people! 70sEraVet Mar 2024 #23
100% I disagreed with his choice of Hur and I think that is allowed but I have never been Bev54 Mar 2024 #25
Do you honestly believe in your heart gab13by13 Mar 2024 #36
I don't agree with everything Garland has done and in particular the Hur appointment and the lack of cleanout of Bev54 Mar 2024 #75
. Scrivener7 Mar 2024 #26
.. bigtree Mar 2024 #35
I remember the days of the torches and pitchforks that came out for Eric Holder BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #27
Preet Bhrarara, gab13by13 Mar 2024 #40
I watched Andrew Weissmann last night too BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #53
Is Garland allowed to choose his team or is he forced to deal with corrupt trump leftovers? ecstatic Mar 2024 #102
There are a certain lower layer of positions that the Department (and agency head) can "choose" BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #113
Thank for setting it straight. Excellent post. Martin68 Mar 2024 #28
Firing Garland at this time would be a bad idea. But only because it's just too late. His duty is already done. jaxexpat Mar 2024 #29
Politics is a nasty, dirty business Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2024 #31
Yup. Agree. My only question is why Garland Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #33
Your question actually points to a larger question . . . markpkessinger Mar 2024 #67
The idea that you have condemnation for moniss Mar 2024 #37
I admit blaming Bragg for sabatoging his own prosecution of Trump didn't occur to me bigtree Mar 2024 #41
It certainly looks to me like President Biden is upset with Merrick Garland gab13by13 Mar 2024 #45
Unless you're having WH luncheons with Joe, your perception is based on one anonymously sourced article. Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #65
You can put that right in line with the fact that moniss Mar 2024 #62
Wow, very interesting analysis. gab13by13 Mar 2024 #42
Yes and even Vance moniss Mar 2024 #69
I don't think Garland should resign, BUT . . . markpkessinger Mar 2024 #38
I'm old enough to remember when the complaints were that he didn't need a SC bigtree Mar 2024 #47
I think you're reacting rather strongly... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #39
ask the questions and bring your receipts bigtree Mar 2024 #48
But I have no questions for you. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Mar 2024 #66
That's funny because your post ends in a question mark AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #128
Oh, you mean this rhetorical question... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #138
I'm just commenting on the fact you asked a question AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #146
Such fun! now look up "Rhetorical Question"! Think. Again. Mar 2024 #149
Garland has limited influence over the SDNY Cosmocat Mar 2024 #46
Merrick Garland is SDNY's boss. gab13by13 Mar 2024 #57
But the 93 U.S. Attorneys are NOT the AG's appointees BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #61
He still runs the show... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #70
"He still runs the show..." BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #72
I'm pretty sure... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #73
"that any work the DOJ is doing that directly involves an ex-President will find it's way onto garland's update memos" BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #74
I MUST disagree... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #77
To respond BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #83
Yeah, people here on DU sometimes seem very happy.... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #84
"I suspect the prosecution of a Presidential candidate might be high on the AG's concern list." BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #86
"Justice delayed is justice denied." Think. Again. Mar 2024 #87
That has been the call from those who want Criminal Justice Reform BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #91
See? We can agree!!! Think. Again. Mar 2024 #92
But it has nothing to do with Garland. BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #93
That's true, we don't agree on garland.... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #95
"Criminal Justice" is not just "federal" BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #96
If you're saying garland is just a figurehead... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #98
Again BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #99
Okay, well thanks, I don't really get what you're trying to say, but I appreciate the discussion. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #105
The OP would have you believe, apparently, that these SDNY documents are the only cause that has provoked anger, Goodheart Mar 2024 #119
Public pressure can be tough. lees1975 Mar 2024 #49
You are spreading falsehoods Fiendish Thingy Mar 2024 #64
Sorry, but he admitted to delays himself. lees1975 Mar 2024 #106
no receipts, so it didn't happen bigtree Mar 2024 #121
Attorney General Merrick Garland deliberated for weeks over whether to approve the application for a warrant to search f republianmushroom Mar 2024 #124
Maybe you mean this one. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #126
See my reply to big tree below your post. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #125
A year? Closer to two years... twenty months, in fact. Goodheart Mar 2024 #141
Detailed Chronology in Trump-Cohen Hush Money Investigation SARose Mar 2024 #50
consult the master computer on 1/6 AllaN01Bear Mar 2024 #51
There's a lot of people right now that I am pissed at here. William769 Mar 2024 #52
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2024 #54
...... 58Sunliner Mar 2024 #55
a little bit plagiarism here, but, republianmushroom Mar 2024 #59
Will be thrilled to see him resign, or be fired. boston bean Mar 2024 #63
Right!! lamp_shade Mar 2024 #68
How many times did Jordan and Comer threaten Bragg? SARose Mar 2024 #71
I don't care how the other side receives me, or either side for that matter. It's past time for Garland to go. Autumn Mar 2024 #76
This obsession displayed by some with Garland is truly disturbing, it does not seem at all healthy. tritsofme Mar 2024 #80
Garland has always been at a disadvantage... allegorical oracle Mar 2024 #81
You can't get rid of Garland before the election, but we absolutely should after the election. Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #82
The idea that Garland would want to stick around for 8 years in the first place is pretty silly. tritsofme Mar 2024 #88
I understand your point. Fully. But the problem is he put our country in jeopardy ecstatic Mar 2024 #100
it's just untrue that he waited for anything bigtree Mar 2024 #108
Wow, talk about a strawman Goodheart Mar 2024 #120
Donald Trump's first criminal trial delayed SARose Mar 2024 #111
The one FACT you continue to la la la gloss over Goodheart Mar 2024 #114
A few dates, upon which to adequately assess Garland's performance Goodheart Mar 2024 #117
Cherry-picking only the dates that support one's assertion... TwilightZone Mar 2024 #123
I picked the dates that matter. Goodheart Mar 2024 #127
Nah, it's called ignoring whatever doesn't fit the narrative. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #136
You're quite wrong, of course. Goodheart Mar 2024 #140
Did you see this list upthread BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #145
Jack Smith was appointed TWENTY MONTHS after the insurrection. Goodheart Mar 2024 #147
"Jack Smith was appointed TWENTY MONTHS after the insurrection." BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #151
Some of the ignorance is intentional. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #122
Looks to me like much projection. nt PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #129
Nope. TwilightZone Mar 2024 #130
Garland should have started prosecutions of tRump 15 minutes after being appointed to the office. rwild1967 Mar 2024 #131
Correct. Goodheart Mar 2024 #132
he's sworn in in March 2021 and by Fall of 2021 he's already investigating bigtree Mar 2024 #134
The proof is in the pudding. Here's the pudding: Goodheart Mar 2024 #148
Kick canetoad Mar 2024 #133
Sorry but your wrong thumper2547 Mar 2024 #135
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Mar 2024 #137
The apologists will come along to declare you a troll, Goodheart Mar 2024 #139
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #150
Great post! Emile Mar 2024 #154
K&R Emile Mar 2024 #155
Biden shouldn't accept a resignation now Captain Zero Mar 2024 #143
Ali Primera once crooned... GreenWave Mar 2024 #152
Trump tried to overthrow our government and Emile Mar 2024 #153
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