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former9thward

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41. That is years away, if ever.

Sat Mar 16, 2024, 11:13 AM

Mar 2024

EV companies are always promising great things "in the next few years". Those next few years never seem to get here.

Toyota Touts Solid State EVs With 932-Mile Range, 10-Minute Charging by 2027

The Japanese automaker says it has found a new material that will help commercialize the elusive, long-awaited solid state battery, but it's light on details.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/toyota-touts-solid-state-evs-with-932-mile-range-10-minute-charging-by

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Tesla Is Getting Absolutely Destroyed Right Now [View all] Tom of Temecula Mar 2024 OP

An example of someone knowing little enough about auto engineering to believe he knew everything. marble falls Mar 2024 #1

He is a perfect example of the Moi personality disorder. Baitball Blogger Mar 2024 #23

A little orange spray tan and a pile of indictments... rubbersole Mar 2024 #24

And the State of California.... SergeStorms Mar 2024 #42

What do you mean by "moves his entire operation to Texas"? A HERETIC I AM Mar 2024 #105

Mea Culpa. SergeStorms Mar 2024 #115

Be Honest Where Modern Obscene Wealth is Created Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #144

Have you invested in buying a lot of it on margin to sell short? MichMan Mar 2024 #152

First... Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #154

I used the word buy, but you are actually borrowing on margin hoping for a short position. MichMan Mar 2024 #156

Yes...borrowed Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #159

Tesla's eccentric sales model is built on an assumption of trust. yardwork Mar 2024 #2

He's a "lucky" punk freak who benefited, in part, from government subsidies. Justice matters. Mar 2024 #28

The 2nd richest person in the world got there by "luck"? former9thward Mar 2024 #38

Luck, smooth talk, and knowing how to game the system go a long way. n/t thesquanderer Mar 2024 #66

I'd call being born into a wealthy family luck kcr Mar 2024 #71

Exactly. ShazzieB Mar 2024 #79

Many millions of people started with similar wealth as Musk. Lucky Luciano Mar 2024 #142

Too Big to Fail Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #145

Sure, he's a monumental asshole who deserves his comeuppance... Lucky Luciano Mar 2024 #149

Well, luck and a lack of shame TimeToGo Mar 2024 #83

You probably won't find a lot eloon fans here. BannonsLiver Mar 2024 #87

No, he became the "2nd richest person in the world" all by his own action MurrayDelph Mar 2024 #127

Emo Elon... LudwigPastorius Mar 2024 #106

I've been a happy Chevy Volt driver for ten years OMGWTF Mar 2024 #37

That is years away, if ever. former9thward Mar 2024 #41

It's all good. My Volt only has 36K miles on it, so I'm good for a while longer. OMGWTF Mar 2024 #63

One of the dumbest things Chevy ever did was discontinue the Volt. nt SunSeeker Mar 2024 #131

One area where Tesla is far superior to their competitors is their supercharger network. beaglelover Mar 2024 #47

Maybe they should tell their car-owners Fritz Walter Mar 2024 #78

Most of the us ev market is shifting to tesla Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #101

This wasn't true for the Chevy Bolt we rented this past December and January. cab67 Mar 2024 #120

I have a Bolt, you are correct they have non-Tesla connector Quanto Magnus Mar 2024 #122

Right. Only newer vehicle models. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #128

This was a brand-new Bolt this past December. cab67 Mar 2024 #140

Ford and Gm have both announced nacs support. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #143

Tesla fucked that up all by themselves jmowreader Mar 2024 #88

That quick-charge feature is dangerous; it places orthoclad Mar 2024 #92

It also shortens battery life if overused NickB79 Mar 2024 #99

Dealers should hve been required to have installed chargers or a charging network Historic NY Mar 2024 #113

Tesla's problem is that half the cost of the car is the battery. joshcryer Mar 2024 #116

Saw my first Tesla truck in person a few days ago. Biophilic Mar 2024 #3

Other than exotic (I think ugly) styling, I wondered if it would actually function as a truck. Guess not. dutch777 Mar 2024 #13

I recently posted the same thoughts. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #29

A common donte Mar 2024 #75

I think my Honda CRV has a nicer interior. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #96

Was it a Model S or an X? KidContra Mar 2024 #90

It must have been the budget Tesla. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #98

No, Tesla has a voice activated navigation system Rstrstx Mar 2024 #123

That is really weird. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #125

I agree with you about the interiors moniss Mar 2024 #108

A friend of mine has an Audi. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #111

Yeah, calling that thing a truck is ridulous. ShazzieB Mar 2024 #81

While Plutobrat had Tesla focus on that POS Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #102

The $10k Chinese EV that could blow away the competition. Celerity Mar 2024 #117

When I first saw it on that stage moniss Mar 2024 #107

Add one letter. Tedsela. nt. druidity33 Mar 2024 #146

Me too, though I didn't think "ugly" Rstrstx Mar 2024 #130

What if it looked like this? True Dough Mar 2024 #137

Yes it does. 😆 Biophilic Mar 2024 #139

Watch for the Egoloon to proclaim all it needs is to be renamed 'X'. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2024 #4

+1. X stands for golden dalton99a Mar 2024 #6

as in "golden showers" erronis Mar 2024 #14

Internal combustion engine vehicles have legacy advantages bucolic_frolic Mar 2024 #5

And of course, much greater range erronis Mar 2024 #15

My old '96 dodge ram is easy to work on, has cheap parts and runs like a champ. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #77

I wouldn't buy a $5 bill from Musk SCantiGOP Mar 2024 #7

Me either..thought he was a genius until the twitter thing atarted Demovictory9 Mar 2024 #129

Plus he didnt start Tesla. The two founders loathe him. mahina Mar 2024 #136

What was Tesla's market value when they sold it vs what is it now? MichMan Mar 2024 #151

Immaterial. mahina Mar 2024 #155

According to the chart in post #144, the stock has gone up nearly 700% since 2019. MichMan Mar 2024 #157

And a liar. mahina Mar 2024 #158

This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #8

Why though? edisdead Mar 2024 #40

Agree. llmart Mar 2024 #54

Oh yeah, it's totally sour grapes BannonsLiver Mar 2024 #84

The Stock Is Grossly Overvalued ProfessorGAC Mar 2024 #62

None of that addresses what I said edisdead Mar 2024 #74

That Doesn't Address What I Said ProfessorGAC Mar 2024 #82

Agreed GregariousGroundhog Mar 2024 #85

There is plenty of demand for orthoclad Mar 2024 #112

Tesla is a poorly managed company that overpaid Musk LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #135

Musky suffers from billionaire know it all disease. nt Javaman Mar 2024 #9

One of the major problems is the infrastructure isn't there, and the upfront expense of all electric JohnSJ Mar 2024 #10

That played a role in our thinking as well Sympthsical Mar 2024 #16

I wish Tesla and Musk would go ahead and divorce genxlib Mar 2024 #11

Yes, yes and yes. Musk is a lot like TFG in that he is his own worst enemy. Big mouth and bad ideas. flying_wahini Mar 2024 #17

Musk has demonstrated mostly good ideas with Tesla Shermann Mar 2024 #26

Correction. SergeStorms Mar 2024 #121

Did California buy him that 13 percent stake in Tesla? Shermann Mar 2024 #132

After reading what happened to Angela Chao.... LisaM Mar 2024 #46

She backed her car into a pond. Sounds like user error to me. beaglelover Mar 2024 #48

Other people have reported problems with the touch screen shifter. LisaM Mar 2024 #57

Touch screens suck! orthoclad Mar 2024 #89

No argument with any of that. Disaffected Mar 2024 #104

It's not EVs, it's all modern cars orthoclad Mar 2024 #110

Any car can be accidentally put into reverse, even a manual one. beaglelover Mar 2024 #119

Of course, but not that easily. LisaM Mar 2024 #138

If user error happens because of poor design kcr Mar 2024 #72

It didn't have that shifter KidContra Mar 2024 #94

100% agree lostnfound Mar 2024 #51

Couldn't happen to a nicer asshole... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #12

I'm sure he'll be just fine. jimfields33 Mar 2024 #35

I'm sure you're right... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #43

Guy is such a dick. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #18

My own favorite line about him on Twitter: a racist, a misogynist and a bad engineer. I would add business man. efhmc Mar 2024 #80

It's OK. Elon still has a couple hundred billion dollars to fall back on. Midnight Writer Mar 2024 #19

Consumer Reports reliability ratings and the fact the infrastructure does doc03 Mar 2024 #20

Brought a hybrid last October kimbutgar Mar 2024 #33

AEP raised their rates 30% last year, if we go to doc03 Mar 2024 #50

Looks like Musk is using tfg's business plan. pazzyanne Mar 2024 #21

Elon panders to right-wingers who tend to hate electric cars Ohioboy Mar 2024 #22

Yep, it's a curious business model. tanyev Mar 2024 #53

Hardly pandering, he's not endorsed either candidate and has been critical of Trump Shermann Mar 2024 #148

Maybe not total pandering Ohioboy Mar 2024 #150

There have been a lot of reports of people dying in them, including Mitch McConnell's billionair sister in law. mackdaddy Mar 2024 #25

Sweden and Norway didn't get the memo Shermann Mar 2024 #27

Buyer's Remorse will get them yet. Tesla is poorly engineered in several ways which will severely undercut their long Ford_Prefect Mar 2024 #55

Tesla is making significant investments in Giga Press Shermann Mar 2024 #61

Very small markets compared to US and China IronLionZion Mar 2024 #69

Norway taxes the crap out of ICE vehicles NickB79 Mar 2024 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Mar 2024 #141

"worst depreciating vehicles on the market right now" I saw one yesterday at a 'buy-here, pay here' used lot lol ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 2024 #30

Pissing off millions of potential customers is not good marketing. Musk may have noticed that MAGAts brewens Mar 2024 #31

You'd ever know it in SF kimbutgar Mar 2024 #32

The Cybertruck rust issue hurts too. apnu Mar 2024 #34

The Cyberdruck body is made of stainless steel. Disaffected Mar 2024 #45

I recall something about that... Pluvious Mar 2024 #59

This may more be a matter of semantics than anything else. Disaffected Mar 2024 #100

Stainless steel still stains and rusts, it's a common misconception IronLionZion Mar 2024 #68

Where? Anywhere rain hits the uncoated body Mersky Mar 2024 #70

Yeah but donte Mar 2024 #76

When Tesla enjoyed the big run up melm00se Mar 2024 #36

Brakes are not an issure with most EVs liberalgunwilltravel Mar 2024 #49

Eloon is Trump lonely bird Mar 2024 #39

Hoping liberalgunwilltravel Mar 2024 #44

Well this part is certainly true....... riversedge Mar 2024 #52

I'd walk before buying a NAZI-Mobile from him. sellitman Mar 2024 #56

We loved our 3 Prius cars so far. LittleGirl Mar 2024 #64

Maybe he could overestimate Tesla's value and sell it to his pal Trump. Ping Tung Mar 2024 #58

Aww... this is so sad for poor elon... liberalla Mar 2024 #60

Musk is a brilliant super genius like Trump IronLionZion Mar 2024 #65

I had to laugh at the last line of the snippet.... SouthernDem4ever Mar 2024 #67

All this and he picked a non winnable union strike with the Finnish countries PortTack Mar 2024 #73

Judging by a few of the responses in the thread BannonsLiver Mar 2024 #91

I certainly hope that The Elon Musk-led company's future is going to be very bright! chouchou Mar 2024 #93

Always call it MAGA-Tesla to make stink stick to Musk like glue Submariner Mar 2024 #95

Tesla stock price doubled last year and sales up 35%. . Doodley Mar 2024 #97

I don't think Snackshack Mar 2024 #103

i used to want a Tesla before I knew who Elon was budkin Mar 2024 #109

I don't know where to start... WarGamer Mar 2024 #114

Unfortunately, your logic requires looking past the shiny object. nt Shermann Mar 2024 #153

I don't doubt this. But... cab67 Mar 2024 #118

Tesla stock has alway been overpriced edhopper Mar 2024 #124

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. NYC2ATL Mar 2024 #126

What is up with these click-baity headlines GenThePerservering Mar 2024 #133

Tesla has an obnoxious CEO. RipVanWinkle Mar 2024 #134

Yup, dragging the S&P 500 down. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #147