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SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
42. And the State of California....
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 11:32 AM
Mar 2024

who gave Musk over $600 million in clean air credits, which he sold (all the time falsifying Tesla's data to earn those credits) when Tesla was struggling to get off the ground.
Then he stiffs California and moves his entire operation to Texas. Abbott gave him extravagant tax incentives, and Musk pays Texas back by polluting southern Texas with his Space junk.
Yeah, Musk is a super guy. 🤥 If you see him poking around your area of the world, RUN AWAY!

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An example of someone knowing little enough about auto engineering to believe he knew everything. marble falls Mar 2024 #1
He is a perfect example of the Moi personality disorder. Baitball Blogger Mar 2024 #23
A little orange spray tan and a pile of indictments... rubbersole Mar 2024 #24
And the State of California.... SergeStorms Mar 2024 #42
What do you mean by "moves his entire operation to Texas"? A HERETIC I AM Mar 2024 #105
Mea Culpa. SergeStorms Mar 2024 #115
Be Honest Where Modern Obscene Wealth is Created Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #144
Have you invested in buying a lot of it on margin to sell short? MichMan Mar 2024 #152
First... Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #154
I used the word buy, but you are actually borrowing on margin hoping for a short position. MichMan Mar 2024 #156
Yes...borrowed Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #159
Tesla's eccentric sales model is built on an assumption of trust. yardwork Mar 2024 #2
He's a "lucky" punk freak who benefited, in part, from government subsidies. Justice matters. Mar 2024 #28
The 2nd richest person in the world got there by "luck"? former9thward Mar 2024 #38
Luck, smooth talk, and knowing how to game the system go a long way. n/t thesquanderer Mar 2024 #66
I'd call being born into a wealthy family luck kcr Mar 2024 #71
Exactly. ShazzieB Mar 2024 #79
Many millions of people started with similar wealth as Musk. Lucky Luciano Mar 2024 #142
Too Big to Fail Roy Rolling Mar 2024 #145
Sure, he's a monumental asshole who deserves his comeuppance... Lucky Luciano Mar 2024 #149
Well, luck and a lack of shame TimeToGo Mar 2024 #83
You probably won't find a lot eloon fans here. BannonsLiver Mar 2024 #87
No, he became the "2nd richest person in the world" all by his own action MurrayDelph Mar 2024 #127
Emo Elon... LudwigPastorius Mar 2024 #106
I've been a happy Chevy Volt driver for ten years OMGWTF Mar 2024 #37
That is years away, if ever. former9thward Mar 2024 #41
It's all good. My Volt only has 36K miles on it, so I'm good for a while longer. OMGWTF Mar 2024 #63
One of the dumbest things Chevy ever did was discontinue the Volt. nt SunSeeker Mar 2024 #131
One area where Tesla is far superior to their competitors is their supercharger network. beaglelover Mar 2024 #47
Maybe they should tell their car-owners Fritz Walter Mar 2024 #78
Most of the us ev market is shifting to tesla Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #101
This wasn't true for the Chevy Bolt we rented this past December and January. cab67 Mar 2024 #120
I have a Bolt, you are correct they have non-Tesla connector Quanto Magnus Mar 2024 #122
Right. Only newer vehicle models. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #128
This was a brand-new Bolt this past December. cab67 Mar 2024 #140
Ford and Gm have both announced nacs support. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #143
Tesla fucked that up all by themselves jmowreader Mar 2024 #88
That quick-charge feature is dangerous; it places orthoclad Mar 2024 #92
It also shortens battery life if overused NickB79 Mar 2024 #99
Dealers should hve been required to have installed chargers or a charging network Historic NY Mar 2024 #113
Tesla's problem is that half the cost of the car is the battery. joshcryer Mar 2024 #116
Saw my first Tesla truck in person a few days ago. Biophilic Mar 2024 #3
Other than exotic (I think ugly) styling, I wondered if it would actually function as a truck. Guess not. dutch777 Mar 2024 #13
I recently posted the same thoughts. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #29
A common donte Mar 2024 #75
I think my Honda CRV has a nicer interior. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #96
Was it a Model S or an X? KidContra Mar 2024 #90
It must have been the budget Tesla. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #98
No, Tesla has a voice activated navigation system Rstrstx Mar 2024 #123
That is really weird. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #125
I agree with you about the interiors moniss Mar 2024 #108
A friend of mine has an Audi. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #111
Yeah, calling that thing a truck is ridulous. ShazzieB Mar 2024 #81
While Plutobrat had Tesla focus on that POS Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #102
The $10k Chinese EV that could blow away the competition. Celerity Mar 2024 #117
When I first saw it on that stage moniss Mar 2024 #107
Add one letter. Tedsela. nt. druidity33 Mar 2024 #146
Me too, though I didn't think "ugly" Rstrstx Mar 2024 #130
What if it looked like this? True Dough Mar 2024 #137
Yes it does. 😆 Biophilic Mar 2024 #139
Watch for the Egoloon to proclaim all it needs is to be renamed 'X'. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2024 #4
+1. X stands for golden dalton99a Mar 2024 #6
as in "golden showers" erronis Mar 2024 #14
Internal combustion engine vehicles have legacy advantages bucolic_frolic Mar 2024 #5
And of course, much greater range erronis Mar 2024 #15
My old '96 dodge ram is easy to work on, has cheap parts and runs like a champ. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #77
I wouldn't buy a $5 bill from Musk SCantiGOP Mar 2024 #7
Me either..thought he was a genius until the twitter thing atarted Demovictory9 Mar 2024 #129
Plus he didnt start Tesla. The two founders loathe him. mahina Mar 2024 #136
What was Tesla's market value when they sold it vs what is it now? MichMan Mar 2024 #151
Immaterial. mahina Mar 2024 #155
According to the chart in post #144, the stock has gone up nearly 700% since 2019. MichMan Mar 2024 #157
And a liar. mahina Mar 2024 #158
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #8
Why though? edisdead Mar 2024 #40
Agree. llmart Mar 2024 #54
Oh yeah, it's totally sour grapes BannonsLiver Mar 2024 #84
The Stock Is Grossly Overvalued ProfessorGAC Mar 2024 #62
None of that addresses what I said edisdead Mar 2024 #74
That Doesn't Address What I Said ProfessorGAC Mar 2024 #82
Agreed GregariousGroundhog Mar 2024 #85
There is plenty of demand for orthoclad Mar 2024 #112
Tesla is a poorly managed company that overpaid Musk LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #135
Musky suffers from billionaire know it all disease. nt Javaman Mar 2024 #9
One of the major problems is the infrastructure isn't there, and the upfront expense of all electric JohnSJ Mar 2024 #10
That played a role in our thinking as well Sympthsical Mar 2024 #16
I wish Tesla and Musk would go ahead and divorce genxlib Mar 2024 #11
Yes, yes and yes. Musk is a lot like TFG in that he is his own worst enemy. Big mouth and bad ideas. flying_wahini Mar 2024 #17
Musk has demonstrated mostly good ideas with Tesla Shermann Mar 2024 #26
Correction. SergeStorms Mar 2024 #121
Did California buy him that 13 percent stake in Tesla? Shermann Mar 2024 #132
After reading what happened to Angela Chao.... LisaM Mar 2024 #46
She backed her car into a pond. Sounds like user error to me. beaglelover Mar 2024 #48
Other people have reported problems with the touch screen shifter. LisaM Mar 2024 #57
Touch screens suck! orthoclad Mar 2024 #89
No argument with any of that. Disaffected Mar 2024 #104
It's not EVs, it's all modern cars orthoclad Mar 2024 #110
Any car can be accidentally put into reverse, even a manual one. beaglelover Mar 2024 #119
Of course, but not that easily. LisaM Mar 2024 #138
If user error happens because of poor design kcr Mar 2024 #72
It didn't have that shifter KidContra Mar 2024 #94
100% agree lostnfound Mar 2024 #51
Couldn't happen to a nicer asshole... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #12
I'm sure he'll be just fine. jimfields33 Mar 2024 #35
I'm sure you're right... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #43
Guy is such a dick. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #18
My own favorite line about him on Twitter: a racist, a misogynist and a bad engineer. I would add business man. efhmc Mar 2024 #80
It's OK. Elon still has a couple hundred billion dollars to fall back on. Midnight Writer Mar 2024 #19
Consumer Reports reliability ratings and the fact the infrastructure does doc03 Mar 2024 #20
Brought a hybrid last October kimbutgar Mar 2024 #33
AEP raised their rates 30% last year, if we go to doc03 Mar 2024 #50
Looks like Musk is using tfg's business plan. pazzyanne Mar 2024 #21
Elon panders to right-wingers who tend to hate electric cars Ohioboy Mar 2024 #22
Yep, it's a curious business model. tanyev Mar 2024 #53
Hardly pandering, he's not endorsed either candidate and has been critical of Trump Shermann Mar 2024 #148
Maybe not total pandering Ohioboy Mar 2024 #150
There have been a lot of reports of people dying in them, including Mitch McConnell's billionair sister in law. mackdaddy Mar 2024 #25
Sweden and Norway didn't get the memo Shermann Mar 2024 #27
Buyer's Remorse will get them yet. Tesla is poorly engineered in several ways which will severely undercut their long Ford_Prefect Mar 2024 #55
Tesla is making significant investments in Giga Press Shermann Mar 2024 #61
Very small markets compared to US and China IronLionZion Mar 2024 #69
Norway taxes the crap out of ICE vehicles NickB79 Mar 2024 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Mar 2024 #141
"worst depreciating vehicles on the market right now" I saw one yesterday at a 'buy-here, pay here' used lot lol ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 2024 #30
Pissing off millions of potential customers is not good marketing. Musk may have noticed that MAGAts brewens Mar 2024 #31
You'd ever know it in SF kimbutgar Mar 2024 #32
The Cybertruck rust issue hurts too. apnu Mar 2024 #34
The Cyberdruck body is made of stainless steel. Disaffected Mar 2024 #45
I recall something about that... Pluvious Mar 2024 #59
This may more be a matter of semantics than anything else. Disaffected Mar 2024 #100
Stainless steel still stains and rusts, it's a common misconception IronLionZion Mar 2024 #68
Where? Anywhere rain hits the uncoated body Mersky Mar 2024 #70
Yeah but donte Mar 2024 #76
When Tesla enjoyed the big run up melm00se Mar 2024 #36
Brakes are not an issure with most EVs liberalgunwilltravel Mar 2024 #49
Eloon is Trump lonely bird Mar 2024 #39
Hoping liberalgunwilltravel Mar 2024 #44
Well this part is certainly true....... riversedge Mar 2024 #52
I'd walk before buying a NAZI-Mobile from him. sellitman Mar 2024 #56
We loved our 3 Prius cars so far. LittleGirl Mar 2024 #64
Maybe he could overestimate Tesla's value and sell it to his pal Trump. Ping Tung Mar 2024 #58
Aww... this is so sad for poor elon... liberalla Mar 2024 #60
Musk is a brilliant super genius like Trump IronLionZion Mar 2024 #65
I had to laugh at the last line of the snippet.... SouthernDem4ever Mar 2024 #67
All this and he picked a non winnable union strike with the Finnish countries PortTack Mar 2024 #73
Judging by a few of the responses in the thread BannonsLiver Mar 2024 #91
I certainly hope that The Elon Musk-led company's future is going to be very bright! chouchou Mar 2024 #93
Always call it MAGA-Tesla to make stink stick to Musk like glue Submariner Mar 2024 #95
Tesla stock price doubled last year and sales up 35%. . Doodley Mar 2024 #97
I don't think Snackshack Mar 2024 #103
i used to want a Tesla before I knew who Elon was budkin Mar 2024 #109
I don't know where to start... WarGamer Mar 2024 #114
Unfortunately, your logic requires looking past the shiny object. nt Shermann Mar 2024 #153
I don't doubt this. But... cab67 Mar 2024 #118
Tesla stock has alway been overpriced edhopper Mar 2024 #124
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. NYC2ATL Mar 2024 #126
What is up with these click-baity headlines GenThePerservering Mar 2024 #133
Tesla has an obnoxious CEO. RipVanWinkle Mar 2024 #134
Yup, dragging the S&P 500 down. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #147
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