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101. The right is very good at crafting messages of violence that stride the line of legality...

Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:43 PM

Mar 2024

... while the intended audience for these messages knows exactly what to do.

How many January 6 traitors tried to defend themselves by saying they were just doing what trump wanted them to do?

We wring our hands over the first amendment while the armed MAGATs are training with their firearms.

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Has there been ANY law enforcement reaction, at all, ... [View all] Think. Again. Mar 2024 OP

We do not have laws that deal with hate speech, gab13by13 Mar 2024 #1

Thank you, .... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #3

Are they supposed to round up all Trump supporters? onenote Mar 2024 #17

Don't tempt us. paleotn Mar 2024 #22

So tell me how this would work. onenote Mar 2024 #24

No idea how that would work, but the question remains.... paleotn Mar 2024 #28

Well said. triron Mar 2024 #67

Hence the dilemma that the GOP is in Metaphorical Mar 2024 #68

"Are there times when we have to step outside the rule of law in order to protect rule of law?" yagotme Mar 2024 #164

That seems to be a very grand approach... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #29

Local to me 4 days ago. PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #131

Surely we can rid ourselves of traitor Marthe48 Mar 2024 #77

Trump said the times require dropping the constitution, remember! Karadeniz Mar 2024 #100

I wouldn't look to Republican Rome as a model... WarGamer Mar 2024 #151

if there IS eminent and identifieable threat stopdiggin Mar 2024 #109

Trump said "bloodbath" not "bloodshed." sop Mar 2024 #2

Thanks I editted that... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #4

The man has a history of fomenting violence. Remember on January 6 he did nothing to stop it Walleye Mar 2024 #8

Trump uses thinly veiled threats of violence to incite his MAGA followers, then later denies having done so. sop Mar 2024 #15

So basically, a mob boss Walleye Mar 2024 #32

He speaks like the feds have his phone bugged. sop Mar 2024 #46

Trump has made multiple threats in his appearances and social media and has no PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #133

We have a President now who will not sit by pwb Mar 2024 #5

Unless I'm mistaken... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #6

You sensationalize Trump pwb Mar 2024 #7

I don't mean to, but I do take the threat trump poses seriously. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #9

The FBI should visit Trump and investigate what he meant by that statement Captain Zero Mar 2024 #10

Yes, even 911 calls are taken very seriously when threats are made... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #12

Because it would be pointless and counterproductive? onenote Mar 2024 #25

Public Safety is pointless and counterproductive? Think. Again. Mar 2024 #31

No, law enforcement asking Trump what he meant would be pointless and counterproductive onenote Mar 2024 #36

Oh, okay, so that approach wouldn't be used... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #47

No n/t Polybius Mar 2024 #81

I think you're right... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #84

I remember several years back some talk show host wished death on a prominent public figure Polybius Mar 2024 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author Think. Again. Mar 2024 #90

That's a different topic... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #92

defendant 45 isn't in charge et tu Mar 2024 #18

The DOJ doesnt want to appear political. nt doc03 Mar 2024 #11

Can I use that excuse to not do MY job? Think. Again. Mar 2024 #13

Apparently, it works we still have Garland apologists here nt doc03 Mar 2024 #19

Seems like... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #14

Les Moonves DiverDave Mar 2024 #169

Yeah, I mentioned Moonves' remark... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #186

No, and there won't be. onenote Mar 2024 #16

I watched his speech and ... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #33

I watched the speech and it was an aside in the middle of a discussion of economic issues onenote Mar 2024 #41

I certainly do hope they are doing just that... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #49

100% it wasn't remotely something LE could/should address. -(nt)- stopdiggin Mar 2024 #110

I think the correct question is GAJMac Mar 2024 #20

Perhaps a class enigmania Mar 2024 #21

or a basic charge of 'communicating a threat'? Think. Again. Mar 2024 #34

His statement was not a "true threat" as defined in the law and under the constitution. onenote Mar 2024 #44

Without charging? I certainly disagree with that. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #50

Funny how authoritarian people can become when they think they're on the "correct" side. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #59

+1 onenote Mar 2024 #62

Or when their lives are being threatened. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #64

Whose lives were threatened? Ocelot II Mar 2024 #70

As a known minority and locally known anti-magat, ... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #73

Cool story bro AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #99

You don't have make assumptions about me whom you don't know... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #103

And if Trump is arrested for his comment, will you be safer or will that trigger the violence you fear will happen onenote Mar 2024 #111

I usually find that eliminating the cause... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #124

So the wildly loyal Trumpers who will engage in violence if he loses the election onenote Mar 2024 #125

It would surely star some chaos, but would pre-empt whatever... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #128

Please provide DOJ with the evidence of a carefully orchestrated, multi-pronged and well-supported plan onenote Mar 2024 #137

If I were in a position to do that... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Mar 2024 #143

Was the January 6th committee authoritarian when they thought they were on the correct side? Emile Mar 2024 #159

No. They were operating within the law, Ocelot II Mar 2024 #160

Garland could have and still can follow their advice. Emile Mar 2024 #161

What do you think Jack Smith has been doing? Ocelot II Mar 2024 #162

Jack Smith is trying to bring the bastard to justice. Emile Mar 2024 #163

Look upthread at post #131 PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #135

How was the statement actually unlawful? What law was broken? Ocelot II Mar 2024 #69

If we apply the testimony of... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #72

It has to be imminent in the context of the statement made. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #74

True, I agree, the Brandenburg v. Ohio. standard does not cover violent acts scheduled to be committed months from now. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #76

And there you have it. Of course the statement was appalling, but it wasn't legally actionable. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #86

Now I understand why some are calling for... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #88

Calling for extrajudicial action makes us as bad as the MAGA. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #89

and keeps us alive. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #91

No. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #93

Brilliant quote Ponietz Mar 2024 #144

You think using extrajudicial means to lock up trump will reduce the risk of violence? onenote Mar 2024 #183

Torn on this. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #108

what does preemption look like .. ? stopdiggin Mar 2024 #115

Still looking for an answer to that question. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #123

You want to weaponize the DOJ and IRS TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #152

Happy for you. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #153

Not quite... yagotme Mar 2024 #165

Ah, okay. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #170

Yes, there was a bit of confusion with "everything". yagotme Mar 2024 #171

Thanks for straightening it out. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #173

No prob. yagotme Mar 2024 #175

what an utterly dangerous, destructive, and ill thought direction that takes us ... stopdiggin Mar 2024 #113

I believe it is trump that has taken us in this utterly dangerous, destructive, and ill thought direction Think. Again. Mar 2024 #127

So, your plan is to follow him off the cliff??? nt yagotme Mar 2024 #166

My hope is that we stop all this BEFORE the cliff. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #167

By legal means, yes. yagotme Mar 2024 #168

I agree. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #172

How do you think his followers will react if he's jailed without trial or conviction before the election? onenote Mar 2024 #182

Yeah, can we stop? Think. Again. Mar 2024 #185

sorry. that doesn't even come close to flying. stopdiggin Mar 2024 #112

I'm pretty sure a defendent's history... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #126

Trump's offenses / threats are repeated and well documented, live and his posts to social media. PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #139

THIS malaise Mar 2024 #23

I honestly believe that if he shot someone on Broadway, he would not go to jail. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2024 #26

How could anyone prove you wrong? RussBLib Mar 2024 #39

... Ferrets are Cool Mar 2024 #57

I don't believe he will be jailed for anything including shooting people. BlueKota Mar 2024 #82

Jack Smith will use that to bolster his J6 case BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #27

Slobby's last/only arrow in his quiver is unleashing his violent crazies on the rest of us. rubbersole Mar 2024 #30

I agree... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #37

Yes, they can use their resources to sniff out any actual planning of violence before, during or after the election onenote Mar 2024 #48

Good,... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #52

Hopefully the followers that will actually do something violent are few and far between. rubbersole Mar 2024 #51

So having the police respond to threats ... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #53

The police should respond to threats that actually constitute threats under the law. onenote Mar 2024 #58

Oh, so because he set the date for the violence... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #63

Of course police should respond. rubbersole Mar 2024 #83

So wait for the murders to occur, then charge them with murder. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #85

Or we could speculate about a hypothetical non-existent threat. rubbersole Mar 2024 #95

Ok, your position is to wait for any violence to start... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #96

How would you stop it? Arrest every Trump supporter? And charge them with what? onenote Mar 2024 #102

Both of those suggestions are not good ones... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #105

The blood bath WILL be dealt with, when and IF it occurs bluestarone Mar 2024 #35

"Communicating a threat" is a chargable offense... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #40

Good luck with that. bluestarone Mar 2024 #45

more gaslighting about DOJ bigtree Mar 2024 #38

That's exactly my question... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #43

If he had "illegally' communicated a threat, maybe. But his comment doesn't constitute an illegal "true threat." onenote Mar 2024 #54

yes!!! Absolutely! Get Out The Vote! 🌊 !!! Think. Again. Mar 2024 #61

Bingo. Trump is a monster, but that was not an actionable threat. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #55

But he's out on bond pending trial--a privilege, not a right. ecstatic Mar 2024 #179

Better that Trump should be worried about the BLUE bloodbath Rocknation Mar 2024 #42

What do you think should be done? Ocelot II Mar 2024 #56

I'm not in law enforcement, but I believe... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #66

See #34. Communicating a threat is unlawful only when Ocelot II Mar 2024 #71

After reading the standard, I actually do think that standard applies... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #75

Why do you think the threat was imminent, since the alleged bloodbath Ocelot II Mar 2024 #78

True... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #80

Our system doesn't appear to be designed to hold white ecstatic Mar 2024 #60

Never Fear, Garland is Near Emile Mar 2024 #65

Curious -- what would you have DOJ do? onenote Mar 2024 #104

Curious why would you question a Democrat Emile Mar 2024 #106

Curious why you would question a Democrat onenote Mar 2024 #107

Conspiracy to defraud the United States. Emile Mar 2024 #158

yes, that is one of the crimes he has been indicted for and, as I said, I want to see him convicted of those crimes. onenote Mar 2024 #176

Lock him up until his trial. He is continuing to Emile Mar 2024 #177

Not going to happen. onenote Mar 2024 #178

Well then arrest him for breaking the strict rules Emile Mar 2024 #180

Here are the 'strict rules' governing his bond release in the January 6 case: onenote Mar 2024 #181

is this where we throw people in jail stopdiggin Mar 2024 #117

Then do it! Emile Mar 2024 #118

the speech over the weekend did not constitute crime stopdiggin Mar 2024 #119

Well many of us are getting tired of waiting. Emile Mar 2024 #120

so you're just going to start jailing people .. stopdiggin Mar 2024 #121

Yea that's what I'm doing. Emile Mar 2024 #122

You're getting tired of waiting TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #134

Every Democrat I know is tired of waiting for justice Emile Mar 2024 #141

What justice do you want? TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #145

Correct... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #148

Conspiracy to defraud the United States would be Emile Mar 2024 #174

Too bad. It's not my concern that people have the patience and attention span of a 3 year old. tritsofme Mar 2024 #146

Wow, Trump should have been in prison right after Emile Mar 2024 #150

No, because of the way it was worded Polybius Mar 2024 #79

Bet Michael Cohen has some advice for you. triron Mar 2024 #114

I don't take advice from him Polybius Mar 2024 #155

and actually, the 'call' would have to be married to specifics stopdiggin Mar 2024 #116

All are equal GAJMac Mar 2024 #94

Yeah, the cops (and military) under his control are making their lists and checking them twice. Runningdawg Mar 2024 #97

Yes, that makes this even more serious than just his civilian minions. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #98

FYI MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2024 #132

Do you understand the term fragging? Think it only happens on a battlefield? Or with a gun? Runningdawg Mar 2024 #184

Like the ones who attacked the Capitol? orthoclad Mar 2024 #187

The right is very good at crafting messages of violence that stride the line of legality... DBoon Mar 2024 #101

None that I'm aware of................................. Lovie777 Mar 2024 #129

At least when individuals are threatened, security is put in place... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #130

Someone on MSNBC usedtobedemgurl Mar 2024 #136

He said if he is not elected there would be a bloodbath in the whole country... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #138

Yes, why I had to check the station. nt usedtobedemgurl Mar 2024 #142

Post removed Post removed Mar 2024 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author Think. Again. Mar 2024 #149

K&R! That is the question of the year!!! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2024 #154

Of course not. They're all Trumpets. orthoclad Mar 2024 #156

It would be good if we could get... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #157

We can't get that info, orthoclad Mar 2024 #188