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In reply to the discussion: Has there been ANY law enforcement reaction, at all, ... [View all]limbicnuminousity
(1,417 posts)108. Torn on this.
What you wrote sounds true. On the other hand:
https://www.salon.com/2024/02/01/right-wing-violence-hasnt-disappeared-its-just-gone-local/
Right-wing violence hasn't disappeared, it's just gone local
If it wasn't for the head of his murdered father's body, a video posted on YouTube by Justin Mohn Tuesday night would be indistinguishable from much of what passes for "content" in the world of far-right social media. In the video titled "Call to Arms for American Patriots," the 33-year-old resident of suburban Pennsylvania raved about "the traitorous Biden regime" and claimed a "fifth column army of illegal immigrants infiltrates our border" and that "far left, woke mobs rampage our once prosperous cities." He repeatedly called on viewers to attack federal employees and accused his deceased father, whose head he put on display, of being a "traitor" for working for the federal government.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/30/man-maga-hat-new-mexico-shooting-charged
Man in Maga hat charged over shooting of Indigenous activist at statue protest
An Indigenous justice activist is recovering after a man wearing a hat with the Donald Trump slogan Make America great again allegedly shot him during a protest against the reinstallation of a statue honoring a Spanish conquistador in New Mexico.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/07/daniel-rodimer-arrest-murder
Trump-backed former congressional candidate arrested for murder
A former pro wrestler who won a prominent endorsement from Donald Trump while unsuccessfully running for Congress in Nevada surrendered to authorities on Wednesday on an arrest warrant for murder.
Daniel Rodimer, 45, was booked in connection with the slaying of 47-year-old Christopher Tapp, who was reportedly beaten to death in Resorts World Las Vegas on 29 October.
Daniel Rodimer, 45, was booked in connection with the slaying of 47-year-old Christopher Tapp, who was reportedly beaten to death in Resorts World Las Vegas on 29 October.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/michigan-man-killed-wife-went-rabbit-hole-conspiracy-theories-trumps-2-rcna47701
Michigan man who killed his wife went down a 'rabbit hole' of conspiracy theories after Trump's 2020 loss, daughter says
Igor Lanis became obsessed with QAnon and the "deep state" before he gunned down his wife, nearly killed their daughter and then was fatally shot by police, his other daughter said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/barry-morphew-was-accused-of-murdering-his-wife-and-casting-her-vote-for-trump-but-prosecutors-stumbled
How a Husband-Wife MAGA Murder Saga Descended Into Chaos
Prosecutors last May filed several charges against Morphew, which offered shocking details about how the 53-year-old allegedly planned and covered up Suzanne Morphews murder a year earlier, on May 9, 2020. Days after his arrest, the father-of-two was hit with additional charges for allegedly submitting a mail-in ballot on behalf of his missing wifeand casting her vote for Donald Trump.
When does preemption become self-defense?
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"Are there times when we have to step outside the rule of law in order to protect rule of law?"
yagotme
Mar 2024
#164
The man has a history of fomenting violence. Remember on January 6 he did nothing to stop it
Walleye
Mar 2024
#8
Trump uses thinly veiled threats of violence to incite his MAGA followers, then later denies having done so.
sop
Mar 2024
#15
Trump has made multiple threats in his appearances and social media and has no
PufPuf23
Mar 2024
#133
The FBI should visit Trump and investigate what he meant by that statement
Captain Zero
Mar 2024
#10
No, law enforcement asking Trump what he meant would be pointless and counterproductive
onenote
Mar 2024
#36
I remember several years back some talk show host wished death on a prominent public figure
Polybius
Mar 2024
#87
I watched the speech and it was an aside in the middle of a discussion of economic issues
onenote
Mar 2024
#41
His statement was not a "true threat" as defined in the law and under the constitution.
onenote
Mar 2024
#44
Funny how authoritarian people can become when they think they're on the "correct" side.
Ocelot II
Mar 2024
#59
And if Trump is arrested for his comment, will you be safer or will that trigger the violence you fear will happen
onenote
Mar 2024
#111
So the wildly loyal Trumpers who will engage in violence if he loses the election
onenote
Mar 2024
#125
Please provide DOJ with the evidence of a carefully orchestrated, multi-pronged and well-supported plan
onenote
Mar 2024
#137
Was the January 6th committee authoritarian when they thought they were on the correct side?
Emile
Mar 2024
#159
True, I agree, the Brandenburg v. Ohio. standard does not cover violent acts scheduled to be committed months from now.
Think. Again.
Mar 2024
#76
And there you have it. Of course the statement was appalling, but it wasn't legally actionable.
Ocelot II
Mar 2024
#86
You think using extrajudicial means to lock up trump will reduce the risk of violence?
onenote
Mar 2024
#183
what an utterly dangerous, destructive, and ill thought direction that takes us ...
stopdiggin
Mar 2024
#113
I believe it is trump that has taken us in this utterly dangerous, destructive, and ill thought direction
Think. Again.
Mar 2024
#127
How do you think his followers will react if he's jailed without trial or conviction before the election?
onenote
Mar 2024
#182
Trump's offenses / threats are repeated and well documented, live and his posts to social media.
PufPuf23
Mar 2024
#139
I honestly believe that if he shot someone on Broadway, he would not go to jail.
Ferrets are Cool
Mar 2024
#26
Slobby's last/only arrow in his quiver is unleashing his violent crazies on the rest of us.
rubbersole
Mar 2024
#30
Yes, they can use their resources to sniff out any actual planning of violence before, during or after the election
onenote
Mar 2024
#48
Hopefully the followers that will actually do something violent are few and far between.
rubbersole
Mar 2024
#51
The police should respond to threats that actually constitute threats under the law.
onenote
Mar 2024
#58
How would you stop it? Arrest every Trump supporter? And charge them with what?
onenote
Mar 2024
#102
If he had "illegally' communicated a threat, maybe. But his comment doesn't constitute an illegal "true threat."
onenote
Mar 2024
#54
yes, that is one of the crimes he has been indicted for and, as I said, I want to see him convicted of those crimes.
onenote
Mar 2024
#176
Too bad. It's not my concern that people have the patience and attention span of a 3 year old.
tritsofme
Mar 2024
#146
Yeah, the cops (and military) under his control are making their lists and checking them twice.
Runningdawg
Mar 2024
#97
Do you understand the term fragging? Think it only happens on a battlefield? Or with a gun?
Runningdawg
Mar 2024
#184
The right is very good at crafting messages of violence that stride the line of legality...
DBoon
Mar 2024
#101
He said if he is not elected there would be a bloodbath in the whole country...
Think. Again.
Mar 2024
#138