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TexasDem69

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134. You're getting tired of waiting

Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:03 PM

Mar 2024

And just want people in jail without a conviction. That’s not the way the rule of law works. And Democrats should defend the rule of law, regardless of what republicans do

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Has there been ANY law enforcement reaction, at all, ... [View all] Think. Again. Mar 2024 OP

We do not have laws that deal with hate speech, gab13by13 Mar 2024 #1

Thank you, .... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #3

Are they supposed to round up all Trump supporters? onenote Mar 2024 #17

Don't tempt us. paleotn Mar 2024 #22

So tell me how this would work. onenote Mar 2024 #24

No idea how that would work, but the question remains.... paleotn Mar 2024 #28

Well said. triron Mar 2024 #67

Hence the dilemma that the GOP is in Metaphorical Mar 2024 #68

"Are there times when we have to step outside the rule of law in order to protect rule of law?" yagotme Mar 2024 #164

That seems to be a very grand approach... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #29

Local to me 4 days ago. PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #131

Surely we can rid ourselves of traitor Marthe48 Mar 2024 #77

Trump said the times require dropping the constitution, remember! Karadeniz Mar 2024 #100

I wouldn't look to Republican Rome as a model... WarGamer Mar 2024 #151

if there IS eminent and identifieable threat stopdiggin Mar 2024 #109

Trump said "bloodbath" not "bloodshed." sop Mar 2024 #2

Thanks I editted that... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #4

The man has a history of fomenting violence. Remember on January 6 he did nothing to stop it Walleye Mar 2024 #8

Trump uses thinly veiled threats of violence to incite his MAGA followers, then later denies having done so. sop Mar 2024 #15

So basically, a mob boss Walleye Mar 2024 #32

He speaks like the feds have his phone bugged. sop Mar 2024 #46

Trump has made multiple threats in his appearances and social media and has no PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #133

We have a President now who will not sit by pwb Mar 2024 #5

Unless I'm mistaken... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #6

You sensationalize Trump pwb Mar 2024 #7

I don't mean to, but I do take the threat trump poses seriously. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #9

The FBI should visit Trump and investigate what he meant by that statement Captain Zero Mar 2024 #10

Yes, even 911 calls are taken very seriously when threats are made... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #12

Because it would be pointless and counterproductive? onenote Mar 2024 #25

Public Safety is pointless and counterproductive? Think. Again. Mar 2024 #31

No, law enforcement asking Trump what he meant would be pointless and counterproductive onenote Mar 2024 #36

Oh, okay, so that approach wouldn't be used... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #47

No n/t Polybius Mar 2024 #81

I think you're right... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #84

I remember several years back some talk show host wished death on a prominent public figure Polybius Mar 2024 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author Think. Again. Mar 2024 #90

That's a different topic... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #92

defendant 45 isn't in charge et tu Mar 2024 #18

The DOJ doesnt want to appear political. nt doc03 Mar 2024 #11

Can I use that excuse to not do MY job? Think. Again. Mar 2024 #13

Apparently, it works we still have Garland apologists here nt doc03 Mar 2024 #19

Seems like... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #14

Les Moonves DiverDave Mar 2024 #169

Yeah, I mentioned Moonves' remark... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #186

No, and there won't be. onenote Mar 2024 #16

I watched his speech and ... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #33

I watched the speech and it was an aside in the middle of a discussion of economic issues onenote Mar 2024 #41

I certainly do hope they are doing just that... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #49

100% it wasn't remotely something LE could/should address. -(nt)- stopdiggin Mar 2024 #110

I think the correct question is GAJMac Mar 2024 #20

Perhaps a class enigmania Mar 2024 #21

or a basic charge of 'communicating a threat'? Think. Again. Mar 2024 #34

His statement was not a "true threat" as defined in the law and under the constitution. onenote Mar 2024 #44

Without charging? I certainly disagree with that. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #50

Funny how authoritarian people can become when they think they're on the "correct" side. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #59

+1 onenote Mar 2024 #62

Or when their lives are being threatened. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #64

Whose lives were threatened? Ocelot II Mar 2024 #70

As a known minority and locally known anti-magat, ... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #73

Cool story bro AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #99

You don't have make assumptions about me whom you don't know... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #103

And if Trump is arrested for his comment, will you be safer or will that trigger the violence you fear will happen onenote Mar 2024 #111

I usually find that eliminating the cause... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #124

So the wildly loyal Trumpers who will engage in violence if he loses the election onenote Mar 2024 #125

It would surely star some chaos, but would pre-empt whatever... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #128

Please provide DOJ with the evidence of a carefully orchestrated, multi-pronged and well-supported plan onenote Mar 2024 #137

If I were in a position to do that... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Mar 2024 #143

Was the January 6th committee authoritarian when they thought they were on the correct side? Emile Mar 2024 #159

No. They were operating within the law, Ocelot II Mar 2024 #160

Garland could have and still can follow their advice. Emile Mar 2024 #161

What do you think Jack Smith has been doing? Ocelot II Mar 2024 #162

Jack Smith is trying to bring the bastard to justice. Emile Mar 2024 #163

Look upthread at post #131 PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #135

How was the statement actually unlawful? What law was broken? Ocelot II Mar 2024 #69

If we apply the testimony of... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #72

It has to be imminent in the context of the statement made. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #74

True, I agree, the Brandenburg v. Ohio. standard does not cover violent acts scheduled to be committed months from now. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #76

And there you have it. Of course the statement was appalling, but it wasn't legally actionable. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #86

Now I understand why some are calling for... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #88

Calling for extrajudicial action makes us as bad as the MAGA. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #89

and keeps us alive. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #91

No. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #93

Brilliant quote Ponietz Mar 2024 #144

You think using extrajudicial means to lock up trump will reduce the risk of violence? onenote Mar 2024 #183

Torn on this. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #108

what does preemption look like .. ? stopdiggin Mar 2024 #115

Still looking for an answer to that question. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #123

You want to weaponize the DOJ and IRS TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #152

Happy for you. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #153

Not quite... yagotme Mar 2024 #165

Ah, okay. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #170

Yes, there was a bit of confusion with "everything". yagotme Mar 2024 #171

Thanks for straightening it out. limbicnuminousity Mar 2024 #173

No prob. yagotme Mar 2024 #175

what an utterly dangerous, destructive, and ill thought direction that takes us ... stopdiggin Mar 2024 #113

I believe it is trump that has taken us in this utterly dangerous, destructive, and ill thought direction Think. Again. Mar 2024 #127

So, your plan is to follow him off the cliff??? nt yagotme Mar 2024 #166

My hope is that we stop all this BEFORE the cliff. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #167

By legal means, yes. yagotme Mar 2024 #168

I agree. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #172

How do you think his followers will react if he's jailed without trial or conviction before the election? onenote Mar 2024 #182

Yeah, can we stop? Think. Again. Mar 2024 #185

sorry. that doesn't even come close to flying. stopdiggin Mar 2024 #112

I'm pretty sure a defendent's history... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #126

Trump's offenses / threats are repeated and well documented, live and his posts to social media. PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #139

THIS malaise Mar 2024 #23

I honestly believe that if he shot someone on Broadway, he would not go to jail. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2024 #26

How could anyone prove you wrong? RussBLib Mar 2024 #39

... Ferrets are Cool Mar 2024 #57

I don't believe he will be jailed for anything including shooting people. BlueKota Mar 2024 #82

Jack Smith will use that to bolster his J6 case BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #27

Slobby's last/only arrow in his quiver is unleashing his violent crazies on the rest of us. rubbersole Mar 2024 #30

I agree... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #37

Yes, they can use their resources to sniff out any actual planning of violence before, during or after the election onenote Mar 2024 #48

Good,... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #52

Hopefully the followers that will actually do something violent are few and far between. rubbersole Mar 2024 #51

So having the police respond to threats ... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #53

The police should respond to threats that actually constitute threats under the law. onenote Mar 2024 #58

Oh, so because he set the date for the violence... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #63

Of course police should respond. rubbersole Mar 2024 #83

So wait for the murders to occur, then charge them with murder. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #85

Or we could speculate about a hypothetical non-existent threat. rubbersole Mar 2024 #95

Ok, your position is to wait for any violence to start... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #96

How would you stop it? Arrest every Trump supporter? And charge them with what? onenote Mar 2024 #102

Both of those suggestions are not good ones... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #105

The blood bath WILL be dealt with, when and IF it occurs bluestarone Mar 2024 #35

"Communicating a threat" is a chargable offense... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #40

Good luck with that. bluestarone Mar 2024 #45

more gaslighting about DOJ bigtree Mar 2024 #38

That's exactly my question... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #43

If he had "illegally' communicated a threat, maybe. But his comment doesn't constitute an illegal "true threat." onenote Mar 2024 #54

yes!!! Absolutely! Get Out The Vote! 🌊 !!! Think. Again. Mar 2024 #61

Bingo. Trump is a monster, but that was not an actionable threat. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #55

But he's out on bond pending trial--a privilege, not a right. ecstatic Mar 2024 #179

Better that Trump should be worried about the BLUE bloodbath Rocknation Mar 2024 #42

What do you think should be done? Ocelot II Mar 2024 #56

I'm not in law enforcement, but I believe... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #66

See #34. Communicating a threat is unlawful only when Ocelot II Mar 2024 #71

After reading the standard, I actually do think that standard applies... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #75

Why do you think the threat was imminent, since the alleged bloodbath Ocelot II Mar 2024 #78

True... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #80

Our system doesn't appear to be designed to hold white ecstatic Mar 2024 #60

Never Fear, Garland is Near Emile Mar 2024 #65

Curious -- what would you have DOJ do? onenote Mar 2024 #104

Curious why would you question a Democrat Emile Mar 2024 #106

Curious why you would question a Democrat onenote Mar 2024 #107

Conspiracy to defraud the United States. Emile Mar 2024 #158

yes, that is one of the crimes he has been indicted for and, as I said, I want to see him convicted of those crimes. onenote Mar 2024 #176

Lock him up until his trial. He is continuing to Emile Mar 2024 #177

Not going to happen. onenote Mar 2024 #178

Well then arrest him for breaking the strict rules Emile Mar 2024 #180

Here are the 'strict rules' governing his bond release in the January 6 case: onenote Mar 2024 #181

is this where we throw people in jail stopdiggin Mar 2024 #117

Then do it! Emile Mar 2024 #118

the speech over the weekend did not constitute crime stopdiggin Mar 2024 #119

Well many of us are getting tired of waiting. Emile Mar 2024 #120

so you're just going to start jailing people .. stopdiggin Mar 2024 #121

Yea that's what I'm doing. Emile Mar 2024 #122

You're getting tired of waiting TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #134

Every Democrat I know is tired of waiting for justice Emile Mar 2024 #141

What justice do you want? TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #145

Correct... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #148

Conspiracy to defraud the United States would be Emile Mar 2024 #174

Too bad. It's not my concern that people have the patience and attention span of a 3 year old. tritsofme Mar 2024 #146

Wow, Trump should have been in prison right after Emile Mar 2024 #150

No, because of the way it was worded Polybius Mar 2024 #79

Bet Michael Cohen has some advice for you. triron Mar 2024 #114

I don't take advice from him Polybius Mar 2024 #155

and actually, the 'call' would have to be married to specifics stopdiggin Mar 2024 #116

All are equal GAJMac Mar 2024 #94

Yeah, the cops (and military) under his control are making their lists and checking them twice. Runningdawg Mar 2024 #97

Yes, that makes this even more serious than just his civilian minions. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #98

FYI MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2024 #132

Do you understand the term fragging? Think it only happens on a battlefield? Or with a gun? Runningdawg Mar 2024 #184

Like the ones who attacked the Capitol? orthoclad Mar 2024 #187

The right is very good at crafting messages of violence that stride the line of legality... DBoon Mar 2024 #101

None that I'm aware of................................. Lovie777 Mar 2024 #129

At least when individuals are threatened, security is put in place... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #130

Someone on MSNBC usedtobedemgurl Mar 2024 #136

He said if he is not elected there would be a bloodbath in the whole country... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #138

Yes, why I had to check the station. nt usedtobedemgurl Mar 2024 #142

Post removed Post removed Mar 2024 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author Think. Again. Mar 2024 #149

K&R! That is the question of the year!!! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2024 #154

Of course not. They're all Trumpets. orthoclad Mar 2024 #156

It would be good if we could get... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #157

We can't get that info, orthoclad Mar 2024 #188