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Cheezoholic

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37. Just after take off when the angle of attack indicators malfucntioned and activated the MCAS system
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 08:34 PM
Mar 2024

and they started to get stick shake with MCAS trimming the aircraft down the pilots initial reaction was to apply power and push forward as instruments were falsely indicating a stall condition and he was doing what you do to correct a stall. As they did that MCAS continued trimming the plane to a nose down attitude. In the cockpit voice recorders the young first officer can be heard telling the captain to kill the MCAS system, which they finally did. That stopped the continous pitch down from the stabilizer trim tabs from increasing anymore and bought them a few precious seconds to try and correct what was going on. The voice and data recorders showed they both were trying to spin the trim wheels backwards to alleviate the nose down attitude and ever increasing speed. They both could be heard trying to pull back on the yoke at the same time but the trim tabs had been set so far in a pitch down condition by the MCAS system, the yoke itself was unable to overcome the nose down attitude of the aircraft. The Captain can be heard saying its not enough (pulling on the yolk) so as a last resort they re-engaged the MCAS system hoping it would help them trim out the aircraft, but it was the killer and put them back to square one as it resumed its pitching the aircraft downward until it hit. Velocity actually contributed to the fate of their situation.

Boeing, the owners of those aircraft were responsible in both incidents involving the new MCAS system, the NTSB/FAA in 1, and it was all to save money and the foolish trust by the regulator that the owners and manufacturers found a way to satisfactorily remedy the issue.

Greed combined with the companies ability to have undo pressure on the regulators by rules and laws they get to write for themselves as I wrote in my post above, was the cause of those accidents straight up.

A fairly detailed discussion of the cause of the Ethiopian Airline accident, and an absolute flagrant under the breath attempt by Boeing to blame those pilots because they were African and didn't know what they were doing, is in the Frontline special on Boeing and the MAX that just re-aired this weekend. Feel free if you haven't.....

Edit: Simply bringing the power back to even idle would not have stopped that suicide software.



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Republicans hate regulations. Emile Mar 2024 #1
Until BonnieJW Mar 2024 #9
They would blame the hourly laborer at Boeing. Emile Mar 2024 #10
Right after they blame Biden. nt Wednesdays Mar 2024 #26
So true! Emile Mar 2024 #27
So do little kids who are only interested in getting their own way. calimary Mar 2024 #29
A big kick from me pandr32 Mar 2024 #2
There is no limit, no bottom. yorkster Mar 2024 #3
Yes I do Arthur_Frain Mar 2024 #4
Kick and rec. Kingofalldems Mar 2024 #5
started with ronald raygun. dereglation is good for u. AllaN01Bear Mar 2024 #6
It started long before that, in 1958 when the FAA was first created. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #15
It went into WARP speed DENVERPOPS Mar 2024 #28
Trump did the same thing with trains. nt SunSeeker Mar 2024 #7
Why not? It worked so well for railways. (Sarcasm). Pepsidog Mar 2024 #8
Rachel@msnbc.com lindysalsagal Mar 2024 #11
When the FAA was first created in the '50s it was given a "dual mandate," which was Ocelot II Mar 2024 #12
President Biden rescinded this order on January 21,2021 patphil Mar 2024 #13
This should be all over the news every time a Boeing aircraft has an accident yliza Mar 2024 #14
You don't trust the honor system? JoseBalow Mar 2024 #16
K&R bdamomma Mar 2024 #17
OOOOOOOOOOH! I'm gonna write an ask about this!!! calimary Mar 2024 #18
Anything he can do to decrease costs... dchill Mar 2024 #19
The sad part is Mr.Bill Mar 2024 #20
Get the ads going malaise Mar 2024 #21
Get the ads going malaise Mar 2024 #22
What a mess made by the menace, Trump. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #23
K&R. Thanks for this post. Another item not reported by MSM with any vigor. c-rational Mar 2024 #24
Kick dalton99a Mar 2024 #25
Good find, kimbutgar SpankMe Mar 2024 #30
Thank you also for your post ! kimbutgar Mar 2024 #32
Many corporations actually write the regulations then hand them to their congressman or Senator Cheezoholic Mar 2024 #31
Wow thank you for your enlightening post about legislators passing laws written by companies that should kimbutgar Mar 2024 #33
same with meat processing plants and food safety EleanorR Mar 2024 #34
I notice there is more food processing recalls nowadays. kimbutgar Mar 2024 #35
The Ethiopian Airlines crash was not caused by anything Boeing did jmowreader Mar 2024 #36
Just after take off when the angle of attack indicators malfucntioned and activated the MCAS system Cheezoholic Mar 2024 #37
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