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In reply to the discussion: Has there been ANY law enforcement reaction, at all, ... [View all]ecstatic
(35,156 posts)179. But he's out on bond pending trial--a privilege, not a right.
He's not a regular guy just talking shit. He's a criminally charged defendant with 88 felony counts, many of which pertain to his violent attempt to overthrow the last election. The conditions of him staying out of jail pending trial are that he abides by certain rules and norms. Those norms would be enforced with any other defendant.
(2) The Defendant shall not violate the laws of this State, the laws of any other state, the laws of the United States of America, or any other local laws. Ayala v. State, 262 Ga. 704, 705 (1993)
(3) The Defendant shall appear in court as directed by the Court. Jd.
(4) The Defendant shall perform no act to intimidate any person known to him or her to be a codefendant or witness in this case or to otherwise obstruct the administration of justice.
Id. This shall include, but is not limited to, the following:
a. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any codefendant;
b. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any witness including, but not limited to, the individuals designated in the Indictment as an unindicated co-conspirators Individual 1 through Individual 30;
c. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any victim;
d. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against the community or to any property in the community;
e. The above shall include, but are not limited to, posts on social media or reposts of posts made by another individual on social media;
(5) The Defendant shall not communicate in any way, directly or indirectly, about the facts of this case with any person known to him to be a codefendant in this case except through his or her counsel.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23921630/donald-trumps-bond-agreement.pdf
(3) The Defendant shall appear in court as directed by the Court. Jd.
(4) The Defendant shall perform no act to intimidate any person known to him or her to be a codefendant or witness in this case or to otherwise obstruct the administration of justice.
Id. This shall include, but is not limited to, the following:
a. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any codefendant;
b. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any witness including, but not limited to, the individuals designated in the Indictment as an unindicated co-conspirators Individual 1 through Individual 30;
c. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any victim;
d. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against the community or to any property in the community;
e. The above shall include, but are not limited to, posts on social media or reposts of posts made by another individual on social media;
(5) The Defendant shall not communicate in any way, directly or indirectly, about the facts of this case with any person known to him to be a codefendant in this case except through his or her counsel.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23921630/donald-trumps-bond-agreement.pdf
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"Are there times when we have to step outside the rule of law in order to protect rule of law?"
yagotme
Mar 2024
#164
The man has a history of fomenting violence. Remember on January 6 he did nothing to stop it
Walleye
Mar 2024
#8
Trump uses thinly veiled threats of violence to incite his MAGA followers, then later denies having done so.
sop
Mar 2024
#15
Trump has made multiple threats in his appearances and social media and has no
PufPuf23
Mar 2024
#133
The FBI should visit Trump and investigate what he meant by that statement
Captain Zero
Mar 2024
#10
No, law enforcement asking Trump what he meant would be pointless and counterproductive
onenote
Mar 2024
#36
I remember several years back some talk show host wished death on a prominent public figure
Polybius
Mar 2024
#87
I watched the speech and it was an aside in the middle of a discussion of economic issues
onenote
Mar 2024
#41
His statement was not a "true threat" as defined in the law and under the constitution.
onenote
Mar 2024
#44
Funny how authoritarian people can become when they think they're on the "correct" side.
Ocelot II
Mar 2024
#59
And if Trump is arrested for his comment, will you be safer or will that trigger the violence you fear will happen
onenote
Mar 2024
#111
So the wildly loyal Trumpers who will engage in violence if he loses the election
onenote
Mar 2024
#125
Please provide DOJ with the evidence of a carefully orchestrated, multi-pronged and well-supported plan
onenote
Mar 2024
#137
Was the January 6th committee authoritarian when they thought they were on the correct side?
Emile
Mar 2024
#159
True, I agree, the Brandenburg v. Ohio. standard does not cover violent acts scheduled to be committed months from now.
Think. Again.
Mar 2024
#76
And there you have it. Of course the statement was appalling, but it wasn't legally actionable.
Ocelot II
Mar 2024
#86
You think using extrajudicial means to lock up trump will reduce the risk of violence?
onenote
Mar 2024
#183
what an utterly dangerous, destructive, and ill thought direction that takes us ...
stopdiggin
Mar 2024
#113
I believe it is trump that has taken us in this utterly dangerous, destructive, and ill thought direction
Think. Again.
Mar 2024
#127
How do you think his followers will react if he's jailed without trial or conviction before the election?
onenote
Mar 2024
#182
Trump's offenses / threats are repeated and well documented, live and his posts to social media.
PufPuf23
Mar 2024
#139
I honestly believe that if he shot someone on Broadway, he would not go to jail.
Ferrets are Cool
Mar 2024
#26
Slobby's last/only arrow in his quiver is unleashing his violent crazies on the rest of us.
rubbersole
Mar 2024
#30
Yes, they can use their resources to sniff out any actual planning of violence before, during or after the election
onenote
Mar 2024
#48
Hopefully the followers that will actually do something violent are few and far between.
rubbersole
Mar 2024
#51
The police should respond to threats that actually constitute threats under the law.
onenote
Mar 2024
#58
How would you stop it? Arrest every Trump supporter? And charge them with what?
onenote
Mar 2024
#102
If he had "illegally' communicated a threat, maybe. But his comment doesn't constitute an illegal "true threat."
onenote
Mar 2024
#54
yes, that is one of the crimes he has been indicted for and, as I said, I want to see him convicted of those crimes.
onenote
Mar 2024
#176
Too bad. It's not my concern that people have the patience and attention span of a 3 year old.
tritsofme
Mar 2024
#146
Yeah, the cops (and military) under his control are making their lists and checking them twice.
Runningdawg
Mar 2024
#97
Do you understand the term fragging? Think it only happens on a battlefield? Or with a gun?
Runningdawg
Mar 2024
#184
The right is very good at crafting messages of violence that stride the line of legality...
DBoon
Mar 2024
#101
He said if he is not elected there would be a bloodbath in the whole country...
Think. Again.
Mar 2024
#138