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BronxBoy

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Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:15 AM Nov 2012

"Organic" Farming and the True Cost of Food-A Small Farmers Perspective [View all]

I am writing this post in response to a GD thread about the price of "organic" food which included a quote by Joel Salatin. I was taken aback by some of the misinformed posts about "organic" food and its costs.

I am so sorry that the word "organic" has been co-opted by corporate America. Reading some of the posts that were dismissive of organic food led me to believe that the only contact that some people had with the organic and sustainable food movement came from folks whose only interaction with the local food movement comes from a visit to Whole Foods or the labels they read in a grocery store.

That's a pity because they are really missing out on what the true organic food movement is all about. So when they look at organic, they only see price. And while the price of food is a very legitimate concern, there is so much more to that woeful term "organic" than meets the eye.

A little about me. My wife and I have been farming commercially for the past 8 year with the last 2 being full-time. We raise organic vegetables, fruits and herbs in addition to having a flock of laying hens and periodically raising hormone free and organic poultry. In addition to our actual farming endeavors, we have been fully immersed in the local food movement. We have had a hand in starting and advising many towns on how to start farmers markets. Where there was only one farmers market in our county when we started, there are now close to 10. I mentor young and beginning farmers and am active in advocating for policies that can help local farmers in our state.

I am a DU fan because I see the outrage when Mitt Romney tells half the country they are nothing but useless moochers. But I get dismayed when I see blanket statements made about organic farmers being ripoff artists and our efforts being painted as nothing but a scam upon the American consumer. True, there have been some miscreants who operate under the banner of pure food production. And in many cases, these problems are being promulgated by the very corporate interests that cause so many problems in other areas. But just as the right wing would extrapolate a single case of welfare fraud into the face of Cadillac driving welfare queens, so too have these bad apples come to represent the face of what the organic food movement is all about

The overwhelming majority of farmers who practice organic and sustainable food production are small and ,many times, family owned farms. Increasingly we are idealistic young people or folks transitioning from corporate America who saw little social value in their work. We are not trying to feed the whole world, just our small part of it. And enough of us are successful, we will make a difference in the health and well-being of our communities. I think that is something that should be applauded not derided.

There are 2 certifying bodies in the world of organic production: USDA Organic and Certified Naturally Grown. And the overwhelming majority of the farmers receiving these certifications are small farms with small acreage: Anywhere from one to twenty in many cases. We receive little government assistance compared to large corporate farming operations. In fact, the little money that is allocated towards organic and sustainable farmers is ALWAYS a target in the farm bill process. Over the past several years. I have seen entire budgetary line items dedicated to sustainable farming practices wiped out while subsidies to the big guys go untouched. Think about that the next time you're tempted to complain about the price of so-called "organic" food.

Chances are that if your only encounter with organic and sustainably grown food is through Whole Foods or your local grocery store, then you are most likely dealing with an outfit that has the scope and scale of a conventional factory farming operation. Most organic farmers cannot make the financial investment to even qualify to sell our food through those venues. Between liability insurance requirements, HAACP plans and packing and shipping regulations, most small farmers, ourselves included opt to sell directly to the consumer. And trust me, even if you were a small farmer that were selling to a grocery chain, you are not seeing as much of that $6.00 a pound price from tomatoes that you should be.

And when complaints are raised about the so-called sky high price of organic food, I have to laugh to myself because I know that the people doing the complaining have absolutely no idea of the uneven regulatory playing field that is put before the small farmer. A chicken in a factory farm can be raised in the most inhumane conditions and whisked through a butchering assembly line in seconds in a factory that is self inspected by the company doing the processing. Yet a small poultry producer raising pastured birds in a humane setting free of hormones and antibiotics has to jump through all kinds of hypocritical hoops to process his birds on farm, if the state regulations allow them to be processed at all. Want to talk about why small farms MIGHT have higher prices? Then make sure you factor in the higher hoops that farmer might have to jump through vis-a-vis the corporate food chain.

Many of the farmers who grow organically have pricing that is fairly competitive with corporate farms. The difference is we choose to sell in venues where we can keep more of our money. So we choose to sell off farm, at farmers markets and through CSAs. Wal-Mart has their margin objectives and their commitment to local food notwithstanding, they intend to hit those targets. So think about that next time you look at the price of organic food in a market and paint the vast majority of organic farmers as price gouging moochers. There are 2 sides to the pricing discussion; An affordable price for the consumer and a living wage for the farmer. Too many people who rail about the former often neglect the latter.

But the organic and sustainable food movement is about more than price. You know the current push to get food into underserved communities? That's overwhelmingly being led by local and organic farmers. Corporate America is just waking up to it because they finally realize they can make a buck at it. To quote a line from Diehard "Welcome to the Party Pals"

The explosion in the growth of farmers markets throughout the country over the past 5 years? Headed up by "organic" and sustainable farmers, dedicated community activists and enlightened city planners who have tired of seeing their downtowns die because of big box stores. The push to get food into so-called food deserts? Spearheaded by a determined cadre of urban farmers looking to address problems at the source. I always chuckle at people who rail against the price of "organic" food at the supermarket that seem to forget that the very people they are so concerned might be priced out of buying fresh wholesome food are totally oblivious to the fact that many of these folks don't even have a store selling fresh produce anywhere remotely close to them. And you know who has been working to change this? Local food advocates. And many of them happen to be "organic" farmers.

Google FMPP and look at the push to get EBT benefits accepted at local farmers markets. And then Google Wholesome Wave, a program that doubles the value of dollars spent at local farmers markets. Guess what? These successful efforts to increase access to fresh, wholesome food have been championed by farmers that self identify as organic or sustainable farmers. Most of us have other priorities other than how much we can get for our food. We are passionate about what we do and know that we will certainly never get rich doing what we do. But that's part of the point. True organic farming is about more than how much our profit margin is at the end of the year. It's about being good stewards of the land, making sure that all of the residents in our community have access to good food and maintaining the genetic diversity of our agricultural sector.

As I said before, I'm so sorry that the word organic has been hijacked by corporate interests. The same thing is slowly starting to happen to "sustainability" So I am going to chalk up a lot of the ignorance on that thread simply to a lack of knowledge. Joel Salatin was called an elitist, asshole in that thread by someone who obviously doesn't know the yeomans work that he has done in helping a lot of small farmers get their food into underserved communities. His work alone in the area on on farm poultry processing has helped a lot of states develop regulations that make this activity viable, safe and legal for many small farms.

So the next time you are tempted to speak derisively about the so-called "organic" movement, make sure you are speaking from an informed position. Because if you were, you would understand that the movement is much more than price comparisons. The work we do is being conducted all across the country by unsung heroes who are operating in the true progressive values held so dear by the members of DU

Don't buy into the corporate bullshit-Support Small Farmers and Local Food Activists. Organic is more than a label.

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du rec. nt xchrom Nov 2012 #1
[AGAIN]=> Nice excuse for pricing food too high... 6502 Nov 2012 #114
[ANOTHER THING]=>You are not Progressives... 6502 Nov 2012 #115
The answer is not cheap food quaker bill Nov 2012 #116
Best post in thread! gollygee Nov 2012 #128
One could call it quaker bill Nov 2012 #141
You are an example of what this poster is complaining about. fasttense Nov 2012 #117
Thank You BronxBoy Nov 2012 #120
[PLEASE]=> Please, you're making stuff up... 6502 Nov 2012 #137
Wow.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #122
[LINK]=> Your answer (and outing) is here... 6502 Nov 2012 #139
Oh lord, he's not lying. He merely misread your post which Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #142
Why do factory chickens have amonia burns on them? KurtNYC Nov 2012 #126
In the hierarchy of dependencies tama Nov 2012 #146
Move to Detroit tama Nov 2012 #145
Very well said. MuseRider Nov 2012 #2
Good for you. 5X Nov 2012 #3
Thank You BronxBoy Nov 2012 #5
I've always grown organic and eaten it when I can get it. You're doing something very important, and freshwest Nov 2012 #28
Thank you! Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #4
Thank You BronxBoy Nov 2012 #11
please, please keep speaking up. The misinformation seeps into even the informed, and Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #39
Bravo countmyvote4real Nov 2012 #6
Organic practices have a FAR reaching effect, not just what goes in your mouth. kalli007 Nov 2012 #7
K&R Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #8
Thanks for setting the record straight! randr Nov 2012 #9
I know what you mean... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #68
Great post I appreciate the info marlakay Nov 2012 #10
Thank You.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #15
We have lots of local jams and jellies sold marlakay Nov 2012 #23
Mountain local 2naSalit Nov 2012 #29
People don't realize... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #42
Bronxboy is correct.... paleotn Nov 2012 #26
Sadly.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #41
yeah the regs are designed to shut the (small) competition down Kali Nov 2012 #135
Wish I could rec this a hundred times. bunnies Nov 2012 #12
K&R. thanks for posting. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #13
Thank you! I was searching for locavore and food justice movements... OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #14
Thank You BronxBoy Nov 2012 #17
Well said. Greybnk48 Nov 2012 #16
Here's a link... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #18
Went and had a look. Greybnk48 Nov 2012 #130
thanks the post! Sancho Nov 2012 #19
Wonderful post! bitchkitty Nov 2012 #20
One of the major components.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #25
Organic trends have saved many a small farm obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #21
The Organic and Local food movement is so vital to our future. XtopherXtopher Nov 2012 #22
k and r for this most excellent post. I find that, whenever there is a positive OP or post about niyad Nov 2012 #24
Yes. BronxBoy Nov 2012 #27
Can I just say laundry_queen Nov 2012 #31
Organics HAVE fed the world FlaGranny Nov 2012 #127
Thank you BronxBoy Caretha Nov 2012 #30
Thanks for your post 2naSalit Nov 2012 #32
I am so glad you mentioned rural........ BronxBoy Nov 2012 #47
I've bookmarked your terrific post to read when I have more time than I do today. proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #33
I'm sick to death of all the silly studies Warpy Nov 2012 #34
See DU thread: More Than Nutritious, Why Organics Are Healthier proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #38
Recommended. proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #35
Stellar post, thank you so much! nt Zorra Nov 2012 #36
Thanks for the shout out to us Certified Naturally Grown (CNG) farmers.n/t fasttense Nov 2012 #37
But what does "naturally grown" mean? kurtzapril4 Nov 2012 #45
There are 2 certifications processes BronxBoy Nov 2012 #53
Certified Naturally Grown is a certification process similar to USDA organic, but less expensive. antigone382 Nov 2012 #71
Bravo! Marrah_G Nov 2012 #40
Thank you for informing us. roody Nov 2012 #43
Thank you for JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #44
Kicked and Recommended Richard D Nov 2012 #46
I do the same 2naSalit Nov 2012 #89
K&R Thank You UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #48
We only grow 2 acres of organics - enough for my sister's catering biz, our local green market, riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #49
The only way to Know for Sure... bvar22 Nov 2012 #58
Most people have no idea how much food you can grow in a small space BronxBoy Nov 2012 #63
Another BeeKeeper! bvar22 Nov 2012 #69
A little OT, but Patiod Nov 2012 #132
I'm interested in Bee Sting Therapy for arthritis. bvar22 Nov 2012 #134
Propolis tama Nov 2012 #147
K&R for the noticeable absence of that faction. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #50
Thanks for the info, BUT RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #51
This is why I love DU.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #56
A friend of mine travelled the country interviewing small farmers, urban farmers, and food activists Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #52
K&R - Organic (local farmer "organic") is the way to go. That's what we try to do. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #54
I'm going to join a CSA. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #55
Tips for Joining a CSA... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #60
Good info, thank you. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #62
Much, much different..... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #65
I'm having trouble finding one. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #92
All great tips obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #83
I love belonging to a CSA obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #82
k&r trailmonkee Nov 2012 #57
Kick. pinto Nov 2012 #59
The problem with the organic label is that it no longer relates well to small local farmers Major Nikon Nov 2012 #61
Excellent OP. blackspade Nov 2012 #64
look to Russia and how it is handling solutions too lunasun Nov 2012 #66
I read your OP after coming home from a farmers market. Gormy Cuss Nov 2012 #67
I'm Glad... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #72
rec#125 bigtree Nov 2012 #70
Back when organic potatoes were $ 4 a lb, I bought some as a joke truedelphi Nov 2012 #73
My friend raises backyard hens Patiod Nov 2012 #133
Thanks bronxboy wisechoice Nov 2012 #74
Organic Food is healthier, but almost unaffordable. rainin Nov 2012 #75
You can feed four people for less that $150 a day obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #84
It is a crazy amount of money. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #90
I am glad to see this thread MuseRider Nov 2012 #76
I see it as art vs schlock emsimon33 Nov 2012 #77
Thank you so much for your excellent essay, BronxBoy! Cha Nov 2012 #78
My primary reason to buy organic is to help promote soil health. kentauros Nov 2012 #79
Absolutely! IMO, it's our most precious resource... drokhole Nov 2012 #95
Thanks for the links! kentauros Nov 2012 #105
One of my heroes!!! drokhole Nov 2012 #110
I may have seen the Bioneers talk kentauros Nov 2012 #111
Very interesting. drokhole Nov 2012 #143
I thought about responding to the original thread quakerboy Nov 2012 #80
That is why I but from farmer stands DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #81
I don't know that I see many misconceptions being explained away here Silent3 Nov 2012 #85
Point partially taken BronxBoy Nov 2012 #86
I still don't see how you defend the cancer remark Silent3 Nov 2012 #97
Whatever...... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #101
Read your post in the other thread KT2000 Nov 2012 #87
Do the trees add up to much of a forest, that's the real question Silent3 Nov 2012 #96
With 100,000 chemicals in commercial use KT2000 Nov 2012 #102
If you can't avoid exposure to bunches of nasty chemicals, and the effects are so dire... Silent3 Nov 2012 #104
personal choice KT2000 Nov 2012 #106
pesticides is dangerous and we have to be cautious wisechoice Nov 2012 #112
1. pesticide cause cancer wisechoice Nov 2012 #91
Point 1 depends on the particular pesticide and the quantity Silent3 Nov 2012 #94
Such an amazing post! Thank you! drokhole Nov 2012 #88
LOL..... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #98
I try to purchase ORGANIC whenever I can! I feel safer with ORGANIC foods! Thanks!! hue Nov 2012 #93
I admire what you're doing.... Red Mountain Nov 2012 #99
Thank You BronxBoy Nov 2012 #100
Pesticides - it's not just cancer womanofthehills Nov 2012 #103
kick Pharaoh Nov 2012 #107
K&R n/t AmyDeLune Nov 2012 #108
Thank you, BronxBoy spaulettea Nov 2012 #109
[AGAIN]=> Nice excuse for pricing food too high... 6502 Nov 2012 #113
No Need To Repeat Yourself BronxBoy Nov 2012 #119
[LINK]=> Your answer is here... 6502 Nov 2012 #138
I buy locally grown organic produce every week klook Nov 2012 #118
The difference in taste between locally grown food (organic or not) vs conventional nadine_mn Nov 2012 #121
I think the reason for the difference in taste...... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #124
Have you ever heard of Bruce Bradley? nadine_mn Nov 2012 #136
Buy local, know your food. revolution breeze Nov 2012 #123
K&R myrna minx Nov 2012 #125
My local food co-op has competitive prices gollygee Nov 2012 #129
Excellent article. Thank you for what you do. cpamomfromtexas Nov 2012 #131
excellent work BronxBoy trailmonkee Nov 2012 #140
Organic horticulture, natural farming, permaculture etc. tama Nov 2012 #144
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