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Nevilledog

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Thu Mar 21, 2024, 02:03 PM Mar 21

Vasectomy bill proposed in response to Louisiana's abortion ban [View all]

https://www.ktalnews.com/news/louisiana/vasectomy-bill-proposed-in-response-to-louisianas-abortion-ban/

BATON ROUGE, La. (KTAL/KMSS) – A Louisiana lawmaker is bringing forward a bill this legislative session that she said is tough on crime and protects women amid the state’s restrictive abortion ban.

HB166 would require convicted sex offenders to undergo a mandatory vasectomy procedure. Representative Delisha Boyd of New Orleans explained why she believes this is an appropriate response to the state’s new laws.

“What it boils down to is that we are unprotected as women in the state of Louisiana. Women are an endangered species in Louisiana. We’ve been told about our health care. We can’t get equal pay for women. We need a device in place to have some sort of protection,” Boyd said, (D) District 102.

Boyd will introduce HB166 in this legislative session. The bill, as proposed, adds penalties to convicted sex offenses by requiring offenders to be subject to a mandatory vasectomy. She said it’s in response to the state’s highly restrictive abortion ban that does not allow exceptions for rape and incest.

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I'm not a philosopher... Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #1
You're not a philosopher, but are you a woman? intheflow Mar 21 #2
+1 Omnipresent Mar 21 #27
I agree, let's do more. Ban viagra and mandate vasectomies. Irish_Dem Mar 21 #30
Forced sterilization is unethical. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #32
Then a rapist might think twice before acting SouthernDem4ever Mar 21 #37
Proponents of the death penalty use the same argumentation. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #41
Not a death penalty... charliea Mar 21 #49
Vasectomies are reversible. LisaM Mar 21 #46
And if a wrongful conviction is never overturned? Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #48
Yes, it's still reversable. intheflow Mar 21 #53
Oh, okay. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #56
I remember that wise saying. intheflow Mar 21 #65
Where in the galloping fuck did I ever intimate that sex offenders should be tolerated? Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #67
Men rape women. intheflow Mar 21 #71
I would call it forced birth control, not sterilization. LisaM Mar 21 #59
They are sometimes reversible . . . markpkessinger Mar 21 #75
Okay, then. They can sue the government for wrongful punishment if they're actually not guilty of rape. intheflow Mar 21 #81
try carrying a baby to et tu Mar 21 #47
THIS. calimary Mar 21 #63
Then the few men that caught, tried and convicted as sex offender will have to have vasectomies. intheflow Mar 21 #50
If it does, then don't commit rape in Louisiana? Crunchy Frog Mar 21 #78
Forced pregnancy for a girl or woman is unethical. Bluepinky Mar 22 #91
And what about recitivism of rapists? Ilsa Mar 22 #92
Best post of the day. Stop rape and incest, or sterilize sex criminals and allow abortion. marble falls Mar 21 #52
I agree it doesn't go far enough. soldierant Mar 21 #64
It doesn't go far enough by a long shot. Alliepoo Mar 21 #82
Men won't care about women losing bodily autonomy until they're also affected. Nevilledog Mar 21 #4
A vasectomy doesn't have any impact on one's ability to engage in sexual assault. brooklynite Mar 21 #8
Correct, but pray tell what would it accomplish? boston bean Mar 21 #12
It would protect women from being forced to give birth Demobrat Mar 21 #35
Post #7 has a solution for that Hekate Mar 21 #13
Yeah, but the raped woman doesn't then have to carry his baby MadameButterfly Mar 21 #23
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #36
While I'm not a fan of this I do like the idea of vasectomies for all over the are of 13. Hope22 Mar 21 #10
Red states like Louisiana not only want to force birth even when it KILLS the woman, they also.. Hekate Mar 21 #11
How can they shut down travel to another state for an abortion? How would they know? CTyankee Mar 21 #54
Texas passed a snitch law straight away. Then there's a bunch of redneck cops in my own California Hekate Mar 21 #70
Was the Civil War abolishing slavery another two wrongs don't make a right? Irish_Dem Mar 21 #31
That's not a great analogy. Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #33
Changing my question so you can win is a weak argument. Irish_Dem Mar 21 #34
Demonstrating why your argument was weak was weak argumentation on my part? Act_of_Reparation Mar 21 #38
That's a weak question. intheflow Mar 21 #66
It is in fact a perfect analogy. I'm sorry you have not been paying attention over the past few years. Hekate Mar 21 #74
Why change the subject. Hope22 Mar 21 #57
any politician that votes for an abortion ban should be sterilized..... moonshinegnomie Mar 21 #43
Twice! Hope22 Mar 21 #58
What part of offering a bill as a protest don't you understand? xmas74 Mar 21 #80
Not a fan. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #3
It won't pass, but maybe it will make some men consider what it's like to lose bodily autonomy. Nevilledog Mar 21 #5
The bill is only for sexual predators, and while that's a legal designation, there are a lot of men out there who WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #6
I disagree. Nevilledog Mar 21 #9
Do they ever connect that with other people losing their autonomy? or is it only for themselves? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #14
I've seen both. "Men should be inviolate" vs. "I've done nothing wrong so it doesn't apply" Nevilledog Mar 21 #18
My question is, do either of those thoughts get them to "OH! I guess it's wrong if we do it to women, too, and I will WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #19
Not usually. The misogyny is strong and the cognitive dissonance is stronger. Nevilledog Mar 21 #20
Yeah so in the end that's why I'm not a fan of these kinds of bills/sentiments. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 21 #21
I understand. Nevilledog Mar 21 #24
Still, the statement is worth making MadameButterfly Mar 21 #25
Which makes it even crazier. Hope22 Mar 21 #17
Some people -- men-people -- have no idea just how angry we are at being tossed back 200 years Hekate Mar 21 #15
Not far enough. limbicnuminousity Mar 21 #7
Rape anyone you lose your penis! Nittersing Mar 21 #16
I would think castration would be the route to take. LiberalFighter Mar 21 #22
Castrates can still rape. limbicnuminousity Mar 21 #28
Less likely to rape if chemical castration is used. pazzyanne Mar 21 #60
Add blow jobs............................ Lovie777 Mar 21 #26
So that means guys in LA can go out and continue no_hypocrisy Mar 21 #29
Of course not, but it's a start. SouthernDem4ever Mar 21 #40
There is no law that prevents rape Mossfern Mar 21 #55
I just want to say that I am embarrassed by the lack of understanding and empathy shown out here. Hope22 Mar 21 #62
patriarchy seems to be et tu Mar 21 #73
I don't know why it surprises me but US women are in real trouble. Hope22 Mar 21 #79
Yeah, this whole thread has me wondering about all the men I know. intheflow Mar 21 #85
Hmmmm... Hope22 Mar 21 #86
You too, Hope! intheflow Mar 21 #89
The Dobbs decision opened this door nuxvomica Mar 21 #39
Thank you for this. What many don't seem to consider... littlemissmartypants Mar 21 #61
By that logic, perhaps an amendment is in order. I'm thinking that if a man wants viagra, PatrickforB Mar 21 #42
Make it applicable to all men as potential accomplices in crime bucolic_frolic Mar 21 #44
good idea bdamomma Mar 21 #45
Disarm the rapist. OMGWTF Mar 21 #51
*snip* I see what you did there LOL Takket Mar 21 #68
A guillotine-style chastity belt would take care of things. Talitha Mar 21 #69
Except they're so damn uncomfortable! intheflow Mar 21 #77
As long as the punishment is equal for both sexes. roamer65 Mar 21 #72
Think long and hard before you decide to employ doctors as agents of the penal state . . . markpkessinger Mar 21 #76
As opposed to Drs performing c-sections on abortable fetuses without consent? Nevilledog Mar 21 #83
A review of instances of forced sterilization shows intheflow Mar 21 #84
Do you really believe Louisiana won't use this for ethnic sterilization? ripcord Mar 21 #87
Do you really this has a snowball's chance in hell of passing in Louisiana? intheflow Mar 21 #88
This won't protect her daughter at a party with a future Supreme Court Justice! Hope22 Mar 22 #90
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