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In reply to the discussion: Every day I marvel at how poor and middle class Republicans vote against their self-interests [View all]kctim
(3,575 posts)103. People with wealth
are NOT who we are talking about here. We are talking about the rank and file who hold different beliefs on some issues. THEY are the ones who we have to work with.
They are not sitting atop vast piles of cash and they are not uneducated morons simply because they hold different values and beliefs than you or because they have different solutions.
I hate to break it to you, but you are NOT in a social democracy, you are in a representative republic that was founded on the belief that individual rights are what defines a "decent society."
And yes, I am a Democrat, a moderate Democrat just like the vast majority of the Party.
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Every day I marvel at how poor and middle class Republicans vote against their self-interests [View all]
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
OP
Great quote, but I'm not sure I would include 'most men.' I'd say, 'stupid men' (and women) nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#7
But the problem is that not all of them are stupid. Many are even well educated, but
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2012
#89
I have John Dean's book, Conservatives Without Conscience, and it is spectacular! I couldn't put it
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#94
Thanks for helping me with the right book title. "Conscience of a Conservative" was the book
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2012
#99
No, thank you for directing me to The Family. And any others like that.
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#101
I'm not so sure. I got quite close to a right wingnut, and he really has no ability to discuss
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#10
Yes, that was me. And what flips me out is their unwillingness to even discuss anything that
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#24
Thank you for posting this. Pathetic, though, isn't it? The upholding of ignorance as the ideal.
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#11
Very pretty, but 1 out of 6 Americans living in poverty, is not a state of mind or an opinion. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#37
Exactly! Nazi Germany backed Hitler because they believed the propaganda and fear
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#116
If we are indeed in a representative republic, there's no representation if the 1%
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#115
That document is quite lovely, but if the 1% is ruling (which it is) something has to CHANGE
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#128
Fine, but expect me to stand against symbols being used to protect the 1%,
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#131
Placing the rich and corporations before citizens is NOT protecting rights and freedoms
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#47
Bullshit beliefs such as that abortion is the primary issue is bullshit
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#117
Yes, but in all honesty, they're cutting off their nose to spite their face. A sign of stupidity.
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#6
unfortunately a lot of them vote against their own interests because they buy the GOP line about
WI_DEM
Jan 2012
#8
It is an aversion, but NOT all countries feel or think this way. That's why I'm amazed at these
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#16
Why...What are the reasons? who noes these daze;...me thinks its laziness coupled with
opihimoimoi
Jan 2012
#15
Yup. What concerns me too is that this anti-education philosophy seems to run deep nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#19
Yes, same anti-intellectualism. The glorification of ignorance by the right wing is astounding.
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#39
The American Dream? Amazing. More like The American Nightmare is what they believe in. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#20
This is true. That's why Repukes block the black vote, because these are far more aware of reality
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#34
True. I never blame old people, though, because old people have a miserably scary life in the U.S.
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#32
Not really. They vote in favor of corporate interests and those of the wealthy, neither of which
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#33
That's how I see it, but the mega-wealthy push this idea of anti-intellectualism until the
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#46
No article, really. It's just my observations of Republicans, based on my observations of them
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#45
I know. It's like thinking up is down, and bad is good. All screwed up. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#50
You're right. Which is why Occupy is so important - it brings capitalism into discussion
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#54
"Freedom from federal government" is a propaganda tactic, and not based on reality
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#58
I will never forget a PBS documentary I saw once which dealt with the homeless and their problems
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#60
And by the way, the Ayn Randish form of thinking is bullshit propaganda, beloved by corporations
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#61
Randroids is an ideal name for them. Randroids worship at the Church of Ayn Rand,
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#67
in the land of snap judgments: emotions trump thought, style over substance.
NuttyFluffers
Jan 2012
#64
That's true. Americans are so much busier and work so much harder than in Europe,
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#74
Exactly! Repukes have perfected the propaganda that ignorance is something to strive for. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#84
You make a very good point, and the biggest ideals of the GOP are based on racism,
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#83
Everyone has priorities. Doesn't mean they're good priorities. Even pedophiles have priorities.
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#81
It would be interesting to find out exactly who the 50% who don't vote are
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#108
Thanks! I hadn't heard of Don't Think of an Elephant, but I just read a review on it, and it seems
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#102
Glad to help, Sarah. "Elephant" is a pretty easy read. It's essentially...
ClassWarrior
Jan 2012
#113
By the way, I seem to have a fan base of Repigs. If you do a search on the Internet for
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#98
Absolutely they're traitors. They're the opposite of anything they claim to be
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#119