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ShazzieB

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28. I've come to the conclusion that MAGA is not really a political movement so much as a fandom.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 04:13 PM
Mar 2024

It's not really about a shared ideology (although Trump fans do have many shared beliefs). At its core, MAGA is a community based on fanatical devotion to Trump the celebrity and media personality.

When he was starring on The Apprentice, he acquired a fan base of admirers who believed that he really was the fantastically rich and successful businessman portrayed in that show. I strongly suspect (though I can't prove it) that his road to political success was paved by the devotion of fans who had followed that TV series and already saw him as the embodiment of success, wealth, and power before he ever held his first political rally.

Along the way, MAGA fandom grew way beyond Apprentice fandom and into a subculture held together by the sense of community and identity Trump fans acquire through their participation in it.

I really wish someone would do a serious academic study of how the public image TSF acquired through The Apprentice set him up for political success. I honestly thjnk there could be a doctoral dissertation in there for the right researcher.

When I look at MAGA through the lens of fandom, it's not that surprising to me that his fans don't share a coherent political set of political principles. They don't need one, because MAGA is not about that. I believe that's why it's so hard to reach those people through logical, well-reasoned arguments, and why it's so hard to shake their devotion to MAGA even when you can get them to see some of the contradictions.

If there was some way to get them to see that TSF is not the stong, rich, powerful hero5 they think he is, but rather a weak, sniveling coward who has lied to them and misled them over and over again, that might do the trick, but I don't see any way to accomplish that. They're too invested in believing he's their savior who is going to fight for them and get rid of everything that makes them uncomfortable, and they're too good at waving away any information they don't like as "fake news," just as he taught them to do.

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So. I made an enemy this week. [View all] KentuckyWoman Mar 2024 OP
Try pretending you don't follow politics leftstreet Mar 2024 #1
That's exactly what I do with the trumpers I can't avoid. Think. Again. Mar 2024 #29
Just another mindless person who is trading his democracy for a red hat and a slogan...nt mitch96 Mar 2024 #2
I use "It's just a slogan" all the time. louis-t Mar 2024 #25
Yes, morons programmed by 24/7 right wing media. hadEnuf Mar 2024 #54
Fantastic! You handled that beautifully! MLAA Mar 2024 #3
GREAT WORK, KentuckyWoman! elleng Mar 2024 #4
they are under the delusion that the locals agree with him dembotoz Mar 2024 #5
Wow! Awesome! Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #6
"To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason Ping Tung Mar 2024 #7
I would say Mr. Paine hit that nail... 3catwoman3 Mar 2024 #18
People haven't changed much at all n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 2024 #36
I had one of these a month ago. sybylla Mar 2024 #64
You went for the rhetorical jugular. BootinUp Mar 2024 #8
I ran into one at Walmart this week. I was looking Emile Mar 2024 #9
Good responses! yardwork Mar 2024 #11
I had the discusion about veterans being called losers and suckers doc03 Mar 2024 #23
"A businessman"::: Hugin Mar 2024 #49
They drank the kool-aid. Emile Mar 2024 #57
" the flavor of cat food he was looking for is no longer available. Then he blamed Biden." LuckyLib Mar 2024 #45
That's what set me off. He also went on about Emile Mar 2024 #59
I would have said "Wow! Your standards are in the basement." OMGWTF Mar 2024 #62
Well said. Pkease hold open the possibility they may change mahina Mar 2024 #10
Two hours. I couldn't have done it. yardwork Mar 2024 #12
Good job LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2024 #13
"Clearly you support him for what you think he'll do AGAINST people you don't like" LoisB Mar 2024 #14
It's always nice to give them multigraincracker Mar 2024 #15
Good point Seinan Sensei Mar 2024 #26
Reading a book about it now. multigraincracker Mar 2024 #39
He won't think about it. Mariana Mar 2024 #63
Good for you! denvine Mar 2024 #16
These people are impervious to reason... GiqueCee Mar 2024 #17
Me, too. My sister like TSF even tho he mocks people with disabilities ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 2024 #37
I have always wondered DENVERPOPS Mar 2024 #43
I admire your restraint. Seriously. Two hours? That must have been painful. Red ears huh? I've had purple faces! Evolve Dammit Mar 2024 #19
I'll have to say that your actions are much more humane than mine. I just spit on them. chouchou Mar 2024 #20
He's a triple-issue voter: ME ME ME! Shermann Mar 2024 #21
Good that you took a stand, but remember, Wednesdays Mar 2024 #22
KNR. you have more patience than I. niyad Mar 2024 #24
"Because I don't like people who are different The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2024 #27
I've come to the conclusion that MAGA is not really a political movement so much as a fandom. ShazzieB Mar 2024 #28
Fandom and being brainwashed. love_katz Mar 2024 #34
Which is why a post Trump GOP may be really f-ed 617Blue Mar 2024 #53
It's a cult. Mariana Mar 2024 #65
I've always found the Socratic approach works best, so you did very well Warpy Mar 2024 #30
Well done! summer_in_TX Mar 2024 #31
It's bad here in Lakeland at work tornado34jh Mar 2024 #32
Perfect ismnotwasm Mar 2024 #33
That took a Kentucky-level of grit, KentuckyWoman. Aristus Mar 2024 #35
Isn't it crazy dai13sy Mar 2024 #38
Maybe you made him think, planted a seed of doubt in him that can cause him to look around a bit harder PatrickforB Mar 2024 #40
That was an absolutely awesome way to keep the trumper off balance. llmart Mar 2024 #41
You did great! DeeDeeNY Mar 2024 #42
i do not know what "game night" is but it doesn't sound very fun orleans Mar 2024 #44
Game night is an event where a group of people get together to play games. Niagara Mar 2024 #50
When I saw your title, and your username together, soldierant Mar 2024 #46
You did "battle" honorably....that person is a sore loser. Just like his cult leader PortTack Mar 2024 #47
If tfg fixed the border why are the all crying about all the people crossing the border Maraya1969 Mar 2024 #48
Why do these people have to ruin a perfectly good visit? Niagara Mar 2024 #51
Nicely Done! Mr. Mustard 2023 Mar 2024 #52
You did great.....am glad richdj25 Mar 2024 #55
Hear Hear! OldBaldy1701E Mar 2024 #56
If the Trumper is a vet SARose Mar 2024 #58
Well done! Iris Mar 2024 #60
Some of my inlaws are trumpers Woodwizard Mar 2024 #61
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