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In reply to the discussion: Bill to ban smoking for anyone born after 2009 introduced by government [View all]Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)37. Oh lord.
>> not to mention the anti LGBT, anti trans, and anti abortion movements and I don't buy any of them.
So, being anti-smoking is the same logic as being anti-lgbtq, and anti-abortion??
What a ridiculous argument. Actually it's offensive.
Smoking is an activity that has been scientifically proven to have substantial negative health consequences for both the smoker and those exposed to secondhand smoke. Advocating against smoking is primarily focused on promoting public health and reducing the harm caused by a behavior that is known to be detrimental. On the other hand, issues like sexual orientation or decisions related to pregnancy are deeply personal matters that do not pose inherent health risks to oneself or others.
Being gay or having a specific sexual orientation is an inherent and unchangeable aspect of a person's identity. It is not a behavior or choice. Conversely, smoking is a behavior that individuals engage in and have the ability to modify or quit. Equating the two disregards the fundamental distinction between a person's core identity and a chosen behavior like smoking.
It's unclear where you were going with that offensive analogy... but it's big fail.
>> You want to go through life telling adults "thou shalt not," open a church.
Look, I'm not here to tell you what to do or not to do. It's your life, your lungs, your choice. But hey, let's not forget that smoking bans (especially this age-related ban) are implemented for the greater good, to protect people from the harmful effects of secondhand smoke. But who needs consideration for others when we can wave the flag of individualism and the family-tradition of being smokers, right?
So, being anti-smoking is the same logic as being anti-lgbtq, and anti-abortion??
Smoking is an activity that has been scientifically proven to have substantial negative health consequences for both the smoker and those exposed to secondhand smoke. Advocating against smoking is primarily focused on promoting public health and reducing the harm caused by a behavior that is known to be detrimental. On the other hand, issues like sexual orientation or decisions related to pregnancy are deeply personal matters that do not pose inherent health risks to oneself or others.
Being gay or having a specific sexual orientation is an inherent and unchangeable aspect of a person's identity. It is not a behavior or choice. Conversely, smoking is a behavior that individuals engage in and have the ability to modify or quit. Equating the two disregards the fundamental distinction between a person's core identity and a chosen behavior like smoking.
It's unclear where you were going with that offensive analogy... but it's big fail.
>> You want to go through life telling adults "thou shalt not," open a church.
Look, I'm not here to tell you what to do or not to do. It's your life, your lungs, your choice. But hey, let's not forget that smoking bans (especially this age-related ban) are implemented for the greater good, to protect people from the harmful effects of secondhand smoke. But who needs consideration for others when we can wave the flag of individualism and the family-tradition of being smokers, right?
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Bill to ban smoking for anyone born after 2009 introduced by government [View all]
Oopsie Daisy
Mar 2024
OP
Yep, it'll be like prohibition, which failed, and the war on drugs, which failed.
CurtEastPoint
Mar 2024
#3
It was the consistently increasing taxes on smokes that got me to finally quit after 35 years.
Torchlight
Mar 2024
#8
Court upholds town bylaw banning anyone born in 21st century from buying tobacco products
MichMan
Mar 2024
#11
That will create a black market. Do you want more gang running another black market?
Warpy
Mar 2024
#19
The effects of smoking (even when they fire-up outside) has negative consequences on *
Oopsie Daisy
Mar 2024
#34
Every single day, I see lower income people digging cigarette butts out of outdoor ashcans so they can roll whatever
Midwestern Democrat
Mar 2024
#33
I'm sure that they've taken that into consideration. Access by way of peers is not new *
Oopsie Daisy
Mar 2024
#41