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34. Dude, we do NOT need more fighter jets.

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:42 PM

Nov 2012

All of our planes are superior than any closest production of another country's plane.

The JSF project is way overbloated, costly at 12.5 billion dollars ANNUALLY, and continues to have _PROBLEMS_.

Fuck that. This is where DoD needs to cut - big time. Just continue to support the other jets at a lower cost.

The problem is, Robert fucking Gates ordered 2,443 JSF's - we do not need that many. Maybe 300-500 should suffice. 10 per state for NG's use only, and the rest split equally to USAF, Army and Navy. The rest can stay in the boneyard in Arizona for regeneration.

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china lands first jet on it's aircraft carrier [View all] xchrom Nov 2012 OP

We'll be getting even friendlier with Australia, I'm sure... MADem Nov 2012 #1

Looks like an F-14 nt RomneyLies Nov 2012 #2

It's design is based on the Russian Carrier aircraft Su-33... Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #4

You mean copied from the Russians jsr Nov 2012 #6

Oops! You're right - the design made its debut in 1995 - after the fall of the USSR... Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #7

Designer dies from heart attack watching landing...... kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #71

Ok this is just weird? Luo Yang, MyNameGoesHere Nov 2012 #41

Good job with that recycled, old carrier from the former USSR, China! Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #3

China has put astronauts into space and has its own space station pampango Nov 2012 #24

Not surprised that you're a fan of the PRC. nt Romulox Nov 2012 #68

Their own new carrier is to become operational in 2014 or 2015, which they are building from scratch JPZenger Nov 2012 #50

They are a little bit better than a F-15 kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #5

Does the F35 have a smaller bomb load--is that what you are saying? Kolesar Nov 2012 #9

Yup almost nothing under wing & 2 internal stations.............. kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #11

Yesterday's "Canadian skeptics" thread Kolesar Nov 2012 #12

Dude, we do NOT need more fighter jets. Panasonic Nov 2012 #34

I agree none would be nice........... kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #69

Well, that thrills me no end. aquart Nov 2012 #8

How many Apple-brand products did we purchase to help fund this project? Earth_First Nov 2012 #10

Salient question corporatists would rather we not ask Populist_Prole Nov 2012 #28

How long do you think this carrier would last against a real carrier? glacierbay Nov 2012 #13

About the same time it would last against one of these; A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #15

Good point. glacierbay Nov 2012 #16

Yep, that'll do it - even the.. Panasonic Nov 2012 #36

Carriers are meant to launch planes first and foremost MyNameGoesHere Nov 2012 #42

They have never intended to use it against the US. Angleae Nov 2012 #21

True glacierbay Nov 2012 #22

Of course India (and others) can't be sure that the US will comply. pampango Nov 2012 #25

Agreed glacierbay Nov 2012 #26

China is probably waiting for the US to slash it's military budget. Angleae Nov 2012 #45

That's an impressive accomplishment! HopeHoops Nov 2012 #14

Yeah! TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #67

EEEK! Quick, send more money to the Pentagon!! Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #17

Oops. Time to roll out a new PR campaign for the world's biggest welfare queen. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #18

Wow. That means they're only about 38 light years behind us... I'm impressed. Not. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #19

Video is already on YouTube Angleae Nov 2012 #20

Not impressed at all glacierbay Nov 2012 #23

Not impressed at all? Really? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #30

Still not impressed glacierbay Nov 2012 #31

"what's so hard about landing a jet in calm waters, broad daylight and no other jets..." cleanhippie Nov 2012 #35

In case you hadn't noticed, glacierbay Nov 2012 #39

I did, and saw it as comparing apples and oranges. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #40

No personal attack taken glacierbay Nov 2012 #43

But it is impressive. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #44

This is fine for invading Taiwan DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #60

I got to spend an hour in an A-6 simulator for being selected Sailor of the Month at VA-128. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #56

I used to fly "MiG Alley" against a Navy RIO guy............ kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #66

I spent over a year and a half working "on the roof" and I'm not impressed. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #55

I'm looking for their first succesful 6-month world tour..... PavePusher Nov 2012 #61

I just assumed they have had aircraft carriers for years and always doc03 Nov 2012 #27

This is great news NNN0LHI Nov 2012 #29

+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #33

Ramp? ti66er8pooh Nov 2012 #32

The British have been using such deck designs for years... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #38

Actually France has never used a ski-jump. Angleae Nov 2012 #48

I stand corrected. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #51

My bad ti66er8pooh Nov 2012 #52

The British now have no aircraft carriers JPZenger Nov 2012 #53

They are building a couple juba Nov 2012 #57

But they are building two. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #58

They use the ski-jump in place of catapults. Angleae Nov 2012 #46

I'll be impressed once they come up with their first original design. Pacafishmate Nov 2012 #37

Paid for by Wal-Mart BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #47

Look to see which companies that supply Walmart are owned by the Chinese military JPZenger Nov 2012 #54

Enrichment BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #63

Threat BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #49

I read that China bought that aircraft carrier from the Ukraine. demosincebirth Nov 2012 #59

They did, for $20 million. Angleae Nov 2012 #62

Mitt Romney bought that aircraft for them. aandegoons Nov 2012 #64

You have to start somewhere Franker65 Nov 2012 #65

And yet Americans still can't distinguish between its and it is. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #70