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graham4anything

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58. As SOS, she is not legally allowed to run for office. Of course she needs off to mount a campaign
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:03 AM
Nov 2012

And you are wrong about Hillary's warmth.(interesting though that a new word is invented to be against hillary).

Crowds love her, she is very good in campaign mode
and people now have seen her speak about important issues whenever they see her.

Of course she should be mad at times at Bibi and the other world leaders. I am mad at them too.

And hey, have you seen Chris Christie and he whalloped a NJ resident last year making a comment about Chris eating an ice cream cone on the boardwalk. Christie almost waddled after him.

And warmth from Jeb?

(interesting though once the age issue is exposed(that Hillary and Warren are age buddies and fellow AARP and soon to be SS members), shifts in words occur.
Warmth?
Was GW Bush warm? Was Lincoln warm? Was Nixon warm? Was LBJ warm?Was Jimmy warm?
IN actuality, President Obama is great with a hug, but he himself is distant(like Lincoln was).

Hell, John the biggest fraud the USA ever knew was warm. Look where warm got you? Almost a heartbeat away from singlehandedly having the biggest scandal a VP would ever have had.

You see, likeable and warm are not synonymous. And warmth and being cold are two separate things too.

and Hillary when NY Senator, did just fine anyhow, when disasters happened, and she travelled to comfort people. I guess you don't remember that.

But no one can compare to Bill Clinton. He and Teddy were two of a kind there.
However, Hillary will have Bill side by side. So like President Obama knew, having Bill front and center was alot better than when Gore ran and shunned him.
(and Gore and Kerry were very warm people btw.)

and oh yeah, Reagan showed his warmth to the victims of AIDS in the early days.
and Bush,W showed his warmth to the victims of Katrina
and GW Bush's wife Barbara showed her warmth to the victims of Katrina

People want competency.
The loser in 2012 was not competent, and people saw through him. Mattered little if he was or was not warm.

BTW-as was shown by other posters on the Walmart thread, Walmart is not a make/break issue, because in many areas outside of say NYC/Los Angeles/Chicago, Walmart is all there is at this point, and millions of democrats need to buy stuff there and don't look at them as if it is bad.
We have the luxury in our area of 4 different supermarkets, countless drugstores, specialty stores to replace any item Walmart sells. But in lots of areas there is nothing for 50 miles.
(and I myself did not realize that til another esteemed poster mentioned it.)

As to Nafta? Well, it was a great idea, the repubs turned inside out and made to appear bad.
But we are one world, and we need better education and have to admit those jobs are not coming back,but others are there to equalize the shift.

It's 3am in the morning and I know who I would want as my President in 2016.
No, I surely did not in 2008 once Obama was running. But I sure hell do now.
The others don't come close

but at least we both agree, it must be a woman (and I would vote for anyone the Dems put up as winning 270 is the only thing I really care about).

Like Dr.Dyer said(c) don't sweat the small stuff, because it all is small stuff.

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It takes a Clinton to defeat a Bush. Like 1992. graham4anything Nov 2012 #1
You're right... PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2012 #3
No more Bushes, No more Clintons.....It's time to part with both those eras. marmar Nov 2012 #13
it would be nice if she could just be considered just Hillary Rodham graham4anything Nov 2012 #15
"she is her own person and much more to the left of him anyhow." marmar Nov 2012 #16
look for a brand new post I am going to make separate about this very subject graham4anything Nov 2012 #18
It is amazing anyone would want to even ascertain ceding anything back to the republicans at all. DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #52
If not Hillary, who? Who do you like out there? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #42
here's some ideas Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #43
#7, 9, 10 for VP along with Julian Castro graham4anything Nov 2012 #45
Yes, the Mario Cuomo skeletons. But, AH, just think if he could write his son's speeches ! Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #62
Just think if he could write HIllary's or for that matter any Democrat's speeches. graham4anything Nov 2012 #63
Although Obama did get elected, there are so many people that could have Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #65
God, please no Tony the V MurrayDelph Nov 2012 #50
A Perot was more critical than a Clinton last time. TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #73
Time to start talking about CC Nov 2012 #2
And who made up that rule? And what about the Kennedy's? With the Clinton's we get a team. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #33
Name one other Kennedy president liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #54
Both Teddy and RFK ran. Yes it was a long time ago. If they were still around and healthy would you Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #70
Get his crooked past up front now Submariner Nov 2012 #4
Political parties are looking more and more like evangelican churches - handing down the ownership. Zen Democrat Nov 2012 #5
I prefer to WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN. It takes a WINNER to get anything to move FORWARD!!! graham4anything Nov 2012 #8
Hillary and Jeb -- both the beginnings of a monarchy. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #14
What if that were the case years ago??? FDR , JFK, Bobby and Teddy never could have run. graham4anything Nov 2012 #17
Franklin Roosevelt was Teddy Roosevelt's FIFTH cousin. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #22
So you didn't like that JFK and RFK and Teddy were allowed to be in office? graham4anything Nov 2012 #24
A seat in the Senate, one of many, is fine. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #29
ooh, parsing to suit your personal dislike of Hillary here and adapt it to whom you do perhaps? graham4anything Nov 2012 #31
Hillary loses her temper too easily and lets it show. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #56
Warmth sounds like a code word Rush Limbaugh would use graham4anything Nov 2012 #59
I have warned. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #66
I think the tidbit of info revealed as a throwaway in the Eric Cantor story disqualifies Warren graham4anything Nov 2012 #69
You need to learn a bit of flexibility and stop being so black & white in your thinking. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #34
The repubs put in a law saying only 2 terms after FDR had 4...it came back to bite them graham4anything Nov 2012 #36
My post wasn't in response to you but JD Priestly. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #41
Hillary won't win if she runs. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #55
FDR was Teddy Roosevelt's FIFTH cousin. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #23
Your post is stretching the issue greatly. and is sexist and showing a big dislike of the SOS graham4anything Nov 2012 #30
Hillary could never win the presidency. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #57
As SOS, she is not legally allowed to run for office. Of course she needs off to mount a campaign graham4anything Nov 2012 #58
there are only two parties, so it doesn't matter who you put in there, one of HiPointDem Nov 2012 #27
then why are you on Democratic underground? There are plenty of 3rd party boards out there graham4anything Nov 2012 #32
you seem to be reading a lot into my post that's not there. bad habit. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #37
you said there still are only 2 parties and that means we are going backwards... graham4anything Nov 2012 #38
ralph nader, or any third party candidate, can't win. ergo, one of the two major candidates HiPointDem Nov 2012 #39
ok. I disagree. One will move forward(Hillary will be left of Bill), one will move back(Jeb) graham4anything Nov 2012 #40
Cause what this country REALLY needs is another BUSH! Drahthaardogs Nov 2012 #6
Nikki wouldn't say told ya about this, because it is just conjecture and chatter from Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #7
You got that right. randome Nov 2012 #9
this told ya so was for all the posters who have said he wasn't even thinking of running graham4anything Nov 2012 #11
The only way he can be a credible candidate is to totally disavow his brother's entire tenure tularetom Nov 2012 #10
Not so...Jeb is going to run as a SANE republican after the extremists ruined the party graham4anything Nov 2012 #12
the guy who ruined florida is going to run as a sane republican? please. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #28
His participation in "taking" the Oval Office during Election 2000 Samantha Nov 2012 #20
Best to campaign FOR the democrat and win it that way. graham4anything Nov 2012 #21
Generally speaking, I agree with you Samantha Nov 2012 #47
We don't need anymore Bushes or Clintons spaulettea Nov 2012 #19
+1. no more family dynasties. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #26
Much as I adore both of them (Sanders & Warren) it's not feasible for them to win. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #35
Well, realistically spaulettea Nov 2012 #53
please god no. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #25
I can't believe Aerows Nov 2012 #44
JEBtm is the one candidate that can unite all JCMach1 Nov 2012 #46
the funny part is, he is the one candidate who also can unite our party who hates the Bush's graham4anything Nov 2012 #49
Hillary and Deval Patrick would cream JCMach1 Nov 2012 #68
Huh. My advice to whoever he's fooling around with: change your name and leave town. aquart Nov 2012 #48
12 years of bushit is quite enough spanone Nov 2012 #51
The BFEE again? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #60
what pray tell is a beff again? graham4anything Nov 2012 #61
BFEE bush family evil empire. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #64
Of course he is, that was the plan all along. apnu Nov 2012 #67
100% correct. Glad you see it. graham4anything Dec 2012 #71
I've been saying and posting this forever. And with his Latina wife? A no-brainer. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #72
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