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demhottie

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24. As in FaceBook "like"? Listen, discussing SoS in those terms cheapens the position

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:05 AM

Nov 2012

I respect and admire Hilary Clinton, but I don't "like" US policy in the ME and Egypt.

After seeing so many dead and wounded children in Gaza, the steadfast support of Israel could be said to make me "like" Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama less, but I don't view it in terms of "liking" them in a way that conflates US policy with them as a personality. It's not like an artist releasing an album, where the artist and the art are intrinsically linked. I like Hilary Clinton as a person, a public figure and a role model, but in her role as SoS, I am disappointed by the continued permissive stance towards Israel when they killed so many civilians. The same is true for Obama.

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Hillary Clinton receiving undue credit for Gaza ceasefire agreement? [View all] demhottie Nov 2012 OP

And I'm having a hard time Control-Z Nov 2012 #1

nailed it DURHAM D Nov 2012 #2

??? demhottie Nov 2012 #6

It was an honest question. I don't know if there have been so many trolls that a question is greeted demhottie Nov 2012 #4

Do you like Secretary Clinton? Marrah_G Nov 2012 #16

As in FaceBook "like"? Listen, discussing SoS in those terms cheapens the position demhottie Nov 2012 #24

It's a pretty easy question Marrah_G Nov 2012 #31

Not so easy ... demhottie Nov 2012 #43

I thought the the second to last sentence of your last post said it nicely Marrah_G Nov 2012 #45

Can someone explain Susan Rice and Libya? The Straight Story Nov 2012 #3

I have looked things up and as I said I don't understand the role the US played here demhottie Nov 2012 #5

Ok, let's start from here: The Straight Story Nov 2012 #7

Exactly right! Justice Nov 2012 #8

I found something from CNN of all places- a timeline showing her involvement in the final revisions demhottie Nov 2012 #12

Watching CNN these days is about the same as watching Fox....what's your point? nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #23

Google search, not from watching CNN and the timeline is useful demhottie Nov 2012 #26

Wow. Did you get up on the "right-wing" side of the bed this morning? nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #20

"seems like" and "from the look of it" rather than links to actual sources?? Lame OP Justice Nov 2012 #9

give some links if possible quinnox Nov 2012 #10

Look for the future news report RobertEarl Nov 2012 #11

Food Fight! Fumesucker Nov 2012 #13

Obama/Clinton Victory union_maid Nov 2012 #14

Considering she is the Secretary of State Marrah_G Nov 2012 #15

Even if the US had no input with the draft, we did influence Israel to agree karynnj Nov 2012 #18

Look at HRC's own announcement - it is clear the US supported Mousi's draft proposal karynnj Nov 2012 #17

I guess it never crossed your mind that today's technology... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #19

That's fine, but what did she actually do to get the fighting to stop? Renew Deal Nov 2012 #25

THANK YOU! That's what I was trying to understand. demhottie Nov 2012 #27

You Really Should Speak More Highly Of 45/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #21

Your questions are legitimate and people are wrong to attack you. Renew Deal Nov 2012 #22

I would add, what were the purposes of this conflict? Looks like it distracted, buying time leveymg Nov 2012 #28

I think it was more the way the OP was worded Marrah_G Nov 2012 #32

It shouldn't matter WHERE someone is coming from, IMO. randome Nov 2012 #33

I'll get better- I'm new to this forum and love it, but I understand that wording can seem like a RW demhottie Nov 2012 #35

A lot of international diplomacy . . . brush Nov 2012 #29

Speculation: Could Iran have played a role in achieving a ceasefire? redgreenandblue Nov 2012 #30

There was a start of a deal and certain conditions were laid out, Beacool Nov 2012 #34

Thanks demhottie Nov 2012 #38

You're welcome. Beacool Nov 2012 #41

I get it now- there was an initial draft, she worked on substantive edits to get both sides to agree demhottie Nov 2012 #36

A friend emailed me an article with similar sentiments... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #37

There is this fantastic technology called "PHONES"...you don't have to be there to talk to someone. cynatnite Nov 2012 #39

That is my understanding of the timeline too krawhitham Nov 2012 #40

The draft was later rejected...then Hillary got them to accept it . Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #42

But it's an agreement that may prove to be as worthless as the paper it's printed on. marmar Nov 2012 #44