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In reply to the discussion: OBAMA's Trojan Horse - No, He Won't Cave! - by David Corn [View all]Cha
(319,207 posts)40. Matthew Iglesias calls it a "Triumph" ..
So Obama secured a deal that extended the middle-class tax cuts (which he and the GOP agreed on), extended UI benefits, created a stimulative payroll tax holiday, cleared the legislative decks for "don't ask, don't tell" repeal and the passage of the New START arms-control treaty, and in exchange he gave up nothing of any real substance. Republicans got two more years' worth of high-end tax cuts at a time when deficit reduction wouldn't have helped the economy, and House GOP opposition would have prevented any new revenue from being spent. Whatever formal leverage he had two years ago still exists today, except now he gets to play that leverage from a somewhat stronger economic and political context. It's totally solid legislative dealmaking and not any kind of cave-in or surrender.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/11/26/lame_duck_2010_tax_deal_obama_s_secret_triumph.html
Thanks kpete
h/t the obama diary
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VERY well stated! & Precisely right, there were those here, who when we lost the decision against
patrice
Nov 2012
#12
Falsely implying that Democrats with whom you disagree of being disloyal is a McCarthy tactic.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#51
Agreed, strongly agreed! PO should publicly reject "fiscal cliff" & so should we! nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#14
Ah geez. I didn't "weasel & worm, distort & evade, twist & torture". I simply reposted SSA statement
pinto
Nov 2012
#44
It's a 'fiscal bluff', R's are terrified to cut the bloated war budget....
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#18
Agreed. This Congress needs to keep their phuking mitts off of Social Security AND Medicare! nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#36
I like "Bluff" because a bluff is not only a cliff, but a deception, and it resembles
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#42
Yes, it is a great play on the word 'cliff', lol! Related geographically, but
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#55
the "white flag" has already been waved before negotiations have started. snooze nt
msongs
Nov 2012
#26
Obama could not let them expire last time because that would have rasied takes on those
JoePhilly
Nov 2012
#32
My case for letting the Bush Tax Cuts end, it ALL depends upon what we get for it:
patrice
Nov 2012
#35
Actually Joe. In the last election, the President said that he would let ALL taxes increase
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#39
Geez....are they ALL IN ON IT?!?! I am still stunned after seeing a clip of David Plouffe on
forestpath
Nov 2012
#54
I think the only difference between getting to his intended goal now or later is
lunatica
Nov 2012
#67