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In reply to the discussion: OBAMA's Trojan Horse - No, He Won't Cave! - by David Corn [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)41. It is NO myth...
...that FICA Contributions have been reduced by the Obama Administration under the guise of a "Temporary Payroll tax Holiday".
It is also no myth that Bush-the-Lesser accomplished the exact same stimulus without a Payroll tax Holiday by simply sending everybody a check from the General Fund.
It is also NO myth that the "Temporary Payroll Tax Holiday" contained legislation stipulating that shortfalls due the lowered collection of FICA contributions WILL BE RECOVERED from the General Fund.
"To prevent Social Security from losing tax revenue, Congress mandated that revenues be transferred from the general fund to the Social Security trust funds to make up for the tax reduction. "
http://taxes.about.com/od/payroll/a/Reduced-Social-Security-Withholding-For-2011.htm
It is also no myth that this has never been done before.
The "Payroll Tax Holiday" established a precedent.
Is also no myth that The Republicans could have NEVER accomplished this feat.
It required a Democrat to touch and ground The 3rd Rail.
It is no myth that once a precedent is established,
it is much easier to accomplish the next time.
The above are simple FACTS, not myths.
You can weasel & worm, distort & evade, twist & torture as much as you want to, but you can not deny the above facts.
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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VERY well stated! & Precisely right, there were those here, who when we lost the decision against
patrice
Nov 2012
#12
Falsely implying that Democrats with whom you disagree of being disloyal is a McCarthy tactic.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#51
Agreed, strongly agreed! PO should publicly reject "fiscal cliff" & so should we! nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#14
Ah geez. I didn't "weasel & worm, distort & evade, twist & torture". I simply reposted SSA statement
pinto
Nov 2012
#44
It's a 'fiscal bluff', R's are terrified to cut the bloated war budget....
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#18
Agreed. This Congress needs to keep their phuking mitts off of Social Security AND Medicare! nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#36
I like "Bluff" because a bluff is not only a cliff, but a deception, and it resembles
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#42
Yes, it is a great play on the word 'cliff', lol! Related geographically, but
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#55
the "white flag" has already been waved before negotiations have started. snooze nt
msongs
Nov 2012
#26
Obama could not let them expire last time because that would have rasied takes on those
JoePhilly
Nov 2012
#32
My case for letting the Bush Tax Cuts end, it ALL depends upon what we get for it:
patrice
Nov 2012
#35
Actually Joe. In the last election, the President said that he would let ALL taxes increase
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#39
Geez....are they ALL IN ON IT?!?! I am still stunned after seeing a clip of David Plouffe on
forestpath
Nov 2012
#54
I think the only difference between getting to his intended goal now or later is
lunatica
Nov 2012
#67