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5. I'm thinking that some of the
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 12:34 PM
Apr 12

countries considering recognition now are thinking strategically about how to make an "international" presence easier to happen as a counter to those you mention. Right now the situation in the West Bank needs a major reboot because it is not sustainable like this for much longer with the groups you mentioned seeming to exert an increasing influence. A couple of months ago I pointed out that the UN strategy for maintaining force "zones" in the Sinai has for the most part worked well. Maybe the "international" presence could occur concurrently with statehood recognition based on the 1967 borders. I would note that the PA has said that they are willing to negotiate regarding borders but only after the international community, meaning the UN, adheres to their already adopted resolutions regarding borders. They have said this in the context of resolving the other issues like compensation, right of return, natural resources etc.

But obviously all of this needs to happen when the voice of the Palestinians themselves is freely heard regarding leadership. Once they express it, but only if judged to have been freely expressed, then the world should accept that leadership as speaking for the Palestinians even if we in the West etc. may not agree with all positions taken by that leadership. We of course would not accept a continuation of violence but as far as a border line being moved here or there or an exchange of resources for other items like compensation or right of return then we should respect that expression and not "take sides".

After they have had presidential elections ripcord Apr 12 #1
I'm wondering if moniss Apr 12 #3
Ah settler ethics. Voltaire2 Apr 12 #6
I'd rather them be their own country. jimfields33 Apr 12 #8
That's what I say. LeftInTX Apr 12 #18
Yep. Absolutely. jimfields33 Apr 12 #22
Who speaks for the State of Palestine-- Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinian Authority...? dutch777 Apr 12 #2
I'm thinking that some of the moniss Apr 12 #5
Don't know if it is possible, but key will be making Israel feel safe & the true free will of the Palestinians in a... dutch777 Apr 13 #24
That would be their problem. Voltaire2 Apr 12 #7
Whoever recognizes a Palestinian state, should be aware that Beastly Boy Apr 12 #4
As I mentioned in some other responses moniss Apr 12 #10
As things stand now, I believe Israel is on board with international peacekeeping force in Gaza, Beastly Boy Apr 12 #16
I agree with what should have been taking place but here moniss Apr 12 #23
Too many people have illusions about what "international protection forces" do... brooklynite Apr 12 #9
That is precisely why they are needed moniss Apr 12 #11
So if there are UN forces on the Gaza border, there won't be any Hamas attacks? brooklynite Apr 12 #12
Yeah, that isn't working out too well in Lebanon. Ace Rothstein Apr 12 #13
The UN forces moniss Apr 12 #15
My comment is about moniss Apr 12 #14
It was tabled by the UNSC yesterday LeftInTX Apr 12 #17
Yes I know but the move by independent countries to give recognition moniss Apr 12 #19
It is up to the United States and we have total veto power. LeftInTX Apr 12 #20
That was my point moniss Apr 12 #21
It is a one state reality in which millions lack voting rights. David__77 Apr 13 #25
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