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lapucelle

(19,495 posts)
197. What "international law" would that be?
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 02:07 PM
Apr 2024

Israel bombed an Iranian Embassy complex. Is that allowed?

Israel can likely argue that its actions did not violate international law’s protections for diplomatic missions, experts say.

A member of the Revolutionary Guards, which oversee the Quds Force, told the Times that the strike on Monday had targeted a meeting in which Iranian intelligence officials and Palestinian militants were discussing the war in Gaza. Among them were leaders of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a group armed and funded by Iran.

Iran has long blurred the lines between its diplomatic missions and its military operations in the Middle East. It selects its ambassadors to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen — countries that make up the “axis of resistance” — from the commanders of the Quds Forces, the external branch of the Revolutionary Guards Corps, rather than its career diplomats. In 2021, Mohammad Javad Zarif, then Iran’s foreign minister, said in a leaked recording that Iran’s foreign policy in the region is determined by its field military operations and not traditional diplomacy set by the foreign ministry.

If the strike targeted individuals engaged in military operations against Israel, including through a proxy armed group, that would likely mean that the building was a legitimate military target, Shany said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/world/europe/interpreter-israel-syria-embassy.html

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Iran itself admitted to the UN that

Tragically, these heinous attacks resulted in the martyrdom of seven Iranian personnel, including senior military advisers, and some others were injured. Alongside the complete destruction of the consular building, the Embassy’s administrative parts also suffered significant damage due to the explosions.

https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15650.doc.htm
Hypocrisy abounds... WarGamer Apr 2024 #1
Just to be clear, Israel didn't attack the Iranian Embassy in Damascus, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #2
Hold on, a Consulate is generally the BUILDING that holds the Embassy.. WTF is the difference here? TeamProg Apr 2024 #48
In this case it was next to the Embassy EX500rider Apr 2024 #49
You hold on, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #50
Still, a fantastic idea! Right???? Right?? right.....? TeamProg Apr 2024 #64
WTF is your problem? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #66
Just saying that bombing the Iranian Consulate in an allied nation was a fantastic idea, right? TeamProg Apr 2024 #98
It was an attack on the commanders of the Iranian Muslim National Guard wnylib Apr 2024 #140
Some people love to argue semantics. Lunabell Apr 2024 #153
I wasn't arguing semantics, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #276
Sure. Lunabell Apr 2024 #277
Good, everyone should have a great day and I' glad you are as am I. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #278
Consulate, embassy, both are Iranian property. brush Apr 2024 #128
As I said, other than that, I have no words. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #129
But yet you continue to post krawhitham Apr 2024 #236
Do you read or listen to news events? wnylib Apr 2024 #141
Do you think it widened the war? brush Apr 2024 #144
I think that the initial attack inside Israel by Iranian backed Hezbollah wnylib Apr 2024 #147
That's one way of lookiing at it. Another is warmonger Netanyahu... brush Apr 2024 #148
Huh? Okay, you are right, but splitting hairs for what putpose? KPN Apr 2024 #172
Yeah, That's A "FACT" If anyone wants to Post an Actual Cha Apr 2024 #268
There are a lot of people who do not care about those with black or brown skin. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #3
Many Israeli Jews are from Iran. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #21
Ah yes, it's all about racism. How American of you, AkFemDem Apr 2024 #109
Looking at things through the lense of race is the American way. erodriguez Apr 2024 #135
Broad brushing Americans seems to be the DU way whathehell Apr 2024 #193
Sorry man the US is a racist country. It has been organized with race in mind for years. erodriguez Apr 2024 #220
Sorry bro, but racism is not limited to the US whathehell Apr 2024 #222
What "lot of people"? Who are you talking about? betsuni Apr 2024 #154
Good point. brush Apr 2024 #177
Since Jews aren't considered Whites I guess that includes them too then oldsoftie Apr 2024 #214
Who (of any credibility) thinks Jews 'aren't white'? whathehell Apr 2024 #223
Well if you insist on credibility..........! oldsoftie Apr 2024 #228
I get you.. whathehell Apr 2024 #232
'ally' enid602 Apr 2024 #4
Very malaise Apr 2024 #5
They frequently bomb Syria Red Mountain Apr 2024 #6
Yep...Lebanon bombs Israel all the time. Syria also bombs Israel now and then. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #9
Right Cosmocat Apr 2024 #152
Escalation enid602 Apr 2024 #11
Iran attacking Israel directly Red Mountain Apr 2024 #15
Strike enid602 Apr 2024 #25
I'm sure Israel felt it was. I assume, they anticipated a retaliation. (If they didn't, then that's just dumb) LeftInTX Apr 2024 #35
It's a response, already. Gore1FL Apr 2024 #63
I feel like I called it Gore1FL Apr 2024 #130
You have got to be kidding. malthaussen Apr 2024 #185
This message was self-deleted by its author NickB79 Apr 2024 #7
With you. MuseRider Apr 2024 #8
It gave bibi the distraction he needed to stay in power instead of prison. PSPS Apr 2024 #10
He might have miscalculated this time Katcat Apr 2024 #17
Better not. President Biden said we will have Israel's back. jimfields33 Apr 2024 #37
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2024 #12
And the worst part is that Smelvis and his son in law are loving this effin mess malaise Apr 2024 #16
Informed enid602 Apr 2024 #29
Just a question bdamomma Apr 2024 #78
There is no doubt in this DUer's mind that Putin is the puppet master, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #81
I bdamomma Apr 2024 #97
Putin and Netanyahu moniss Apr 2024 #210
The obvious attempt to start a wider conflict was when Hamas invaded Israel. Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #94
I think Putin used it as a distraction - TBF Apr 2024 #181
Israel has been trying to limit Iranian influence in Syria Red Mountain Apr 2024 #13
Israel has the Iron Dome. Iran will have more "martyrs" LeftInTX Apr 2024 #33
Bibi the fascist wants to keep the war/wars going. He knows he will be out! PortTack Apr 2024 #14
M$NBComcast is discussing malaise Apr 2024 #19
From your lips to the Universe ears. Bibi is a mad man and he jrthin Apr 2024 #27
Hard to process malaise Apr 2024 #45
It sure is... jrthin Apr 2024 #73
I so hope you're right about this, malaise! BComplex Apr 2024 #115
he's not leaving until his coalition falls apart. Calista241 Apr 2024 #137
He can't be gone soon enough! PortTack Apr 2024 #273
M$NBComcast is discussing malaise Apr 2024 #20
They really said the attack was good? LeftInTX Apr 2024 #244
There were terrorist leaders who were victims PCIntern Apr 2024 #18
Very true, but to some, that's irrelevant, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #22
Yeah yeah, wash-rinse-repeat. Bombing thre Iranian Consulate in a third party nation was an amazing idea, right? TeamProg Apr 2024 #54
I will thank you for not putting your words in my mouth, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #62
A Consulate generally holds the Embassy. That's usually the way it works. TeamProg Apr 2024 #65
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #70
Thank you! TeamProg Apr 2024 #74
Guess I forgot to add this......... MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #75
Here ya go! TeamProg Apr 2024 #174
Ok, and? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #274
The reporting was clear and explicit. Igel Apr 2024 #134
HUH? No it doesnt. A consulate is a totally different building. oldsoftie Apr 2024 #158
Here ya go! TeamProg Apr 2024 #194
The Embassy is a building, not people, according to the very site you link oldsoftie Apr 2024 #203
Incorrect, sir. TeamProg Apr 2024 #208
It's says right there on the site; "an embassy is an official HQ for diplomats..." oldsoftie Apr 2024 #215
Do you have a link for that claim? lapucelle Apr 2024 #168
Here ya go! TeamProg Apr 2024 #173
Sorry, that doesn't work on me. Your link does not say that "a consulate generally holds the embassy". lapucelle Apr 2024 #178
Hmmm, I thin you reasd the wrong response post: Here you go! TeamProg Apr 2024 #191
Sorry, it won't work. That is exactly the post I was responding to. lapucelle Apr 2024 #198
The subject was the physical location, not the missions of each dept. These pasted statements say NOTHING about the TeamProg Apr 2024 #175
The Iranian embassy in Syria is not located in the Iranian consulate in Syria. lapucelle Apr 2024 #179
An embassy is not part of a consulate. lapucelle Apr 2024 #199
It cannot be ANY clearer than this: TeamProg Apr 2024 #201
Sorry. A building that supports the embassy is not an embassy. lapucelle Apr 2024 #211
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #24
That can't be, I thought they were freedom fighters like Mandela AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2024 #28
We both know it's way more complicated than that malaise Apr 2024 #30
But yet nothing about Iran's arming and training terrorist orgs. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #32
Iran supports and arms Hamas and Houthi TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #39
Not sure it was, as it was the building next to the Embassy, not the Embassy EX500rider Apr 2024 #53
What international law was violated? TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #84
You mean like raping teens at a rave? AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2024 #204
"Food service workers"...could you be more dismissive? BeyondGeography Apr 2024 #31
I'm not being dismissive PCIntern Apr 2024 #34
Spare me the condescension BeyondGeography Apr 2024 #38
Typical DU Israel "discussion": PCIntern Apr 2024 #47
Listen to you BeyondGeography Apr 2024 #61
That's what they WERE... PCIntern Apr 2024 #68
So you do not find the act of whathehell Apr 2024 #230
Do you walk to work or do you carry your lunch? PCIntern Apr 2024 #245
Nonresponsive whathehell Apr 2024 #271
Israel has to be the bad guy ALL the time. Hamas, et al; are 'freedom fighters"! oldsoftie Apr 2024 #43
THERE IS NO FUCKING PERSON ON DU WHO IS IN FAVOR OF HAMAS. STOP BEING SO DIVISIVE. BComplex Apr 2024 #119
You don't think calling Hamas "freedom fighters just like Mandela" is supportive? BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #217
This post doesn't help anyone uponit7771 Apr 2024 #161
"Suspected Israeli warplanes bombed Iran's embassy in Syria on April 1 in a strike that Iran said killed seven of its TeamProg Apr 2024 #59
Killed head of Quds force, which US says is terrorist LeftInTX Apr 2024 #80
Yes, there's No Excusing Iran try as anyone might. Cha Apr 2024 #250
Bibi Netanyahu plays with fire 24/7. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2024 #26
Iran is a Putin ally and has been providing weapons to hit Ukraine sarisataka Apr 2024 #60
Its a common misconception that embassies are "foreign soil". They're not. oldsoftie Apr 2024 #36
The Israelis are simply freedom fighters. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #40
Supporting liberal democracies over authoritarian fundamentalists Sympthsical Apr 2024 #41
I'm 100% behind Joe Biden TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #42
"President Behind" Dave Bowman Apr 2024 #86
Ha, yes TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #89
Y'all acting like Iran doesn't fund this shit Sympthsical Apr 2024 #44
+ JI7 Apr 2024 #51
I think any perceived bulwark against the "evil west" is welcomed by a few folks here. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #77
+1 betsuni Apr 2024 #105
Yeah, DUers should give BB more benefit of the doubt right? uponit7771 Apr 2024 #162
Not everyone thinks of politics in terms of personality Sympthsical Apr 2024 #164
What has led to Iran's retaliation against Israel? TeamProg Apr 2024 #46
Good link malaise Apr 2024 #52
"Israeli warplanes bombed Iran's embassy in Syria " EX500rider Apr 2024 #56
Even most Iranian people don't support what their shit Govt is doing JI7 Apr 2024 #55
By international law, Iran bombed Israeli territory in Buenos Aires in 1992, killing 22 people Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #57
Ugh. Here we go again. paleotn Apr 2024 #58
You mean you don't feel bad for the biggest international state sponsor of terrorism on the planet? BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #69
Post removed Post removed Apr 2024 #88
That would definitely track. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #90
... lapucelle Apr 2024 #131
Typical JD. betsuni Apr 2024 #142
Was wondering how long it would take some to shift to "Iran fans" paleotn Apr 2024 #104
Toronto protesters cheer as Iran fires drones at Israel lapucelle Apr 2024 #132
... betsuni Apr 2024 #143
Funny how the kumbaya set are so quick to cheer kinetic responses. paleotn Apr 2024 #159
They don't want peace. Ace Rothstein Apr 2024 #195
Because at heart they are all antisemites BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #202
Sick Fucks.. Too GD Bad our Allies Intercepted and Terrorist Iran Cha Apr 2024 #251
Didn't work for me Danmel Apr 2024 #138
Dang. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. paleotn Apr 2024 #160
Correct. David__77 Apr 2024 #67
Actually, it's factually incorrect on two out of three points. lapucelle Apr 2024 #183
Bibi upped the ante. Basic LA Apr 2024 #71
This is one of my main stances. Netanyahu (as universally agreed on MSNBC for hours) deliberately provoked Iran Celerity Apr 2024 #113
What's obvious to a growing majority Basic LA Apr 2024 #125
+1, waaaaay too many on DU give Bobo the benefit of doubt uponit7771 Apr 2024 #163
As far as I am concerned, support for Netanyahu (including baying for him to kick off an all out war with Iran, Celerity Apr 2024 #165
Someone on DU is calling on Israel to nuke Iran? lapucelle Apr 2024 #189
Yes, yesterday. A legit, longer time DU poster, not some newly spun up alt burner account. Celerity Apr 2024 #225
Who on DU is "insanely calling for Israel to nuke [Iran]"? lapucelle Apr 2024 #212
I searched back to the strike in Damascus sarisataka Apr 2024 #216
it was yesterday Celerity Apr 2024 #227
Not finding it. sarisataka Apr 2024 #229
yes Celerity Apr 2024 #231
Good, anyone advocating the use of nuclear weapons sarisataka Apr 2024 #233
I can't find one either. lapucelle Apr 2024 #237
This was the opp where it was. revmclaren Apr 2024 #248
See post 225. Celerity Apr 2024 #226
Just adding bdamomma Apr 2024 #72
I support the people of Israel. NOT their government. davsand Apr 2024 #76
I am sick of the bullshit lonely bird Apr 2024 #79
... BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #82
OK lonely bird Apr 2024 #87
Lol BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #95
So who do you support? TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #85
The people lonely bird Apr 2024 #93
You aren't paying attention TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #96
Read it again. lonely bird Apr 2024 #101
Cool, thanks for the slowness TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #106
I support the people lonely bird Apr 2024 #136
Israel just slaughtered over 30,000 Palestinians malaise Apr 2024 #123
In what claudette Apr 2024 #151
Many of them Hamas Rapists and murderers JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #207
THIS malaise Apr 2024 #92
Welcome to The Great Middle Eastern War. roamer65 Apr 2024 #83
Crying over TERRORISTS again wah fucking wah BLOCKED GuppyGal Apr 2024 #91
Just gotta throw this in here. Religion is destroying the whole middle east, SO bluestarone Apr 2024 #99
And that's the truth malaise Apr 2024 #103
All of the combatants are killing to protect their version of the One True God. Ping Tung Apr 2024 #205
President Biden PennRalphie Apr 2024 #100
In a moment of incredible uncertainty, I'm so happy that we have President Biden in the Oval Office. LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #102
Me too, but whatever bad happens, Trump and the Republicans will blame Biden. Doodley Apr 2024 #117
All I can say is thank God Joe Biden is president and not Donald Trump. Who is with me?! 🖐️ LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #120
Amen to that! mcar Apr 2024 #124
But it was OK when Iranians stormed the US embassy and kept US citizens hostage for 444 days? LeftInTX Apr 2024 #107
Yeah..well...you know... PCIntern Apr 2024 #108
What year was the US backed coup again malaise Apr 2024 #110
But it was OK? It was OK to abduct the hostages and take them to prisons and torture them because of the US relations? LeftInTX Apr 2024 #111
And yet the Mullahs are so bad many Iranians missed the Shah now EX500rider Apr 2024 #118
So that makes it claudette Apr 2024 #209
I have nothing to add to your post except - Yes! flashman13 Apr 2024 #112
Some FACTs you left out... Steven Maurer Apr 2024 #114
Please don't confuse these people with facts. PCIntern Apr 2024 #116
Doesn't claudette Apr 2024 #127
Not necessarily. I don't think that the US would stomach it. erodriguez Apr 2024 #149
I hope and claudette Apr 2024 #150
I watched Sky overnight malaise Apr 2024 #156
👍 claudette Apr 2024 #157
Biden has said the US will not support retaliation. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #180
I think claudette Apr 2024 #190
+1 betsuni Apr 2024 #145
Is Iran freedom fighters too? nt LexVegas Apr 2024 #121
Iran murders women for not wearing head coverings mcar Apr 2024 #122
IOKIYNTW (It's OK if You're Not Teh West) betsuni Apr 2024 #146
Seems to be a running thread eh? JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #266
Except that they don't. Marcus IM Apr 2024 #182
Iran is a brutal, dictatorial regime mcar Apr 2024 #218
What happened to Mahsa/Zhina Amini? LeftInTX Apr 2024 #219
Israel must have done it mcar Apr 2024 #224
See post 234. sheshe2 Apr 2024 #238
I note that you edited your post mcar Apr 2024 #242
Here's a more realistic video LeftInTX Apr 2024 #243
Except when they do. sheshe2 Apr 2024 #234
What is going on, she? mcar Apr 2024 #239
I posted this in 2022. sheshe2 Apr 2024 #240
Now they're claudette Apr 2024 #126
DURec leftstreet Apr 2024 #133
Statement from President Joe Biden on Iran's Attacks against the State of Israel LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #139
FACT claudette Apr 2024 #155
" with over 30,000 INNOCENTS being killed in the process." EX500rider Apr 2024 #166
It is not a "FACT" that "Israel bombed an Iranian embassy". lapucelle Apr 2024 #171
There haven't been 30,000 innocents killed in Gaza. Ace Rothstein Apr 2024 #196
The Middle East. Don't expect peace. twodogsbarking Apr 2024 #167
It is not a "FACT" that Israel bombed an embassy. lapucelle Apr 2024 #169
FACT - Israel bombed an Iranian CONSULATE and killed TERRORISTS AnrothElf Apr 2024 #170
Agreed. It appears tricky warmonger Netanyahu pulled that off... brush Apr 2024 #176
And nothing they write changes the fact malaise Apr 2024 #184
What "international law" would that be? lapucelle Apr 2024 #197
Good call Brush DENVERPOPS Apr 2024 #187
I look at that bombing DENVERPOPS Apr 2024 #186
As the local program host just said malaise Apr 2024 #188
Israeli airstrike destroyed the Iranian consulate ANNEX NEXT to Iranian Embassy - killing 16 people. Nanjeanne Apr 2024 #192
THIS malaise Apr 2024 #200
That is not Iranian territory JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #206
I think 99% of people think Embassies ARE considered that country's territory. oldsoftie Apr 2024 #213
It is considered sovereign Iranian territory, per CNN. Celerity Apr 2024 #247
Well, CNN is part of the 99%. It is NOT "sovereign foreign territory." oldsoftie Apr 2024 #258
Thank you JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #265
The building belongs to Iran. AloeVera Apr 2024 #235
They may own the BUILDING but the land is NOT considered "foreign territory" oldsoftie Apr 2024 #269
I understand that. AloeVera Apr 2024 #270
Its not a distraction when people constantly say "its "X" territory!!" oldsoftie Apr 2024 #272
It is considered sovereign Iranian territory, per CNN. Celerity Apr 2024 #246
A very rare joint statement from the Democratic Majority for Israel (DFMI) and Republican Jewish Committee (RJC) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #221
More money for more war. Shameless. AloeVera Apr 2024 #241
Iran is a Gov Sponsored Stupid Terrorist Org So Why Cha Apr 2024 #252
And they brought in a creepy Howard Hughes clone to run their country in 1980 LeftInTX Apr 2024 #256
Yeah..Why Would anyone defend the Terrorist Nation Iran? Cha Apr 2024 #267
It's NOT a "Fact".. It's Not an "Embassy" Quit Excusing Iran.. Cha Apr 2024 #249
Calling things what they're NOT is anti-west propaganda. I see a pattern * Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #259
What motivates Bibi? Aussie105 Apr 2024 #253
It was on the 2nd flr, Embassy's on the 1st. Basic LA Apr 2024 #254
This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Apr 2024 #255
At least claudette Apr 2024 #257
Hamas & Iran didn't give a fuck about Palestinians Cha Apr 2024 #260
A salient point! Basic LA Apr 2024 #261
That's true claudette Apr 2024 #262
"those of us who know the "truth"? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #275
Mostly in the US malaise Apr 2024 #263
Glad to hear that about overseas accuracy. Basic LA Apr 2024 #264
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