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In reply to the discussion: FACT - Israel bombed an Iranian Embassy and killed people [View all]lapucelle
(21,116 posts)211. Sorry. A building that supports the embassy is not an embassy.
Consulate Vs. Embassy: Key Differences
FUNCTIONS AND ROLES
Embassy: An embassy is the main diplomatic mission of one country in another countrys capital city. It represents the sending countrys government and serves as the highest level of diplomatic representation.
Embassies are responsible for maintaining political, economic, and cultural relations between the two nations. They handle diplomatic matters, issue visas and passports, and provide consular services to their citizens living or traveling in the host country.
Consulate: A consulate is a smaller diplomatic mission, usually located in a major city other than the capital, where the embassy is situated.
Consulates focus primarily on providing services to their countrys citizens in the host country, such as issuing passports, providing assistance during emergencies, and helping with legal and administrative matters. They may also promote trade and economic relations between the two countries and facilitate business exchanges.
FUNCTIONS AND ROLES
Embassy: An embassy is the main diplomatic mission of one country in another countrys capital city. It represents the sending countrys government and serves as the highest level of diplomatic representation.
Embassies are responsible for maintaining political, economic, and cultural relations between the two nations. They handle diplomatic matters, issue visas and passports, and provide consular services to their citizens living or traveling in the host country.
Consulate: A consulate is a smaller diplomatic mission, usually located in a major city other than the capital, where the embassy is situated.
Consulates focus primarily on providing services to their countrys citizens in the host country, such as issuing passports, providing assistance during emergencies, and helping with legal and administrative matters. They may also promote trade and economic relations between the two countries and facilitate business exchanges.
https://www.boundless.com/blog/consulate-vs-embassy-whats-the-difference/
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The UN Security Counsel knows the difference:
Briefing Security Council on Reported Israeli Attacks against Irans Diplomatic Premises in Syria, Top UN Official Urges Efforts to Prevent Further Escalation
In a meeting urgently convened today following reports of Israeli attacks on Irans diplomatic premises in Syria, a senior United Nations official told the Security Council that the inviolability of diplomatic and consular premises and personnel must be respected and further escalation must be avoided.
The rules-based international order is essential for international peace and security, which this Council is mandated to maintain, said Khaled Khiari, Assistant Secretary-General for Middle East, Asia and the Pacific in the Departments of Political and Peacebuilding Affairs and Peace Operations, in his briefing to the 15-member body.
Lethal attacks on Iran-linked targets in Syria have been increasingly attributed to Israel, especially since the current conflict with Hamas in Gaza began on 7 October, he noted. While Israel has rarely claimed responsibility for any of these incidents, its officials have repeatedly acknowledged its military operations in Syria and have suggested that more will occur in the future.
In a meeting urgently convened today following reports of Israeli attacks on Irans diplomatic premises in Syria, a senior United Nations official told the Security Council that the inviolability of diplomatic and consular premises and personnel must be respected and further escalation must be avoided.
The rules-based international order is essential for international peace and security, which this Council is mandated to maintain, said Khaled Khiari, Assistant Secretary-General for Middle East, Asia and the Pacific in the Departments of Political and Peacebuilding Affairs and Peace Operations, in his briefing to the 15-member body.
Lethal attacks on Iran-linked targets in Syria have been increasingly attributed to Israel, especially since the current conflict with Hamas in Gaza began on 7 October, he noted. While Israel has rarely claimed responsibility for any of these incidents, its officials have repeatedly acknowledged its military operations in Syria and have suggested that more will occur in the future.
https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15650.doc.htm
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So does WaPo.
An Israeli airstrike hit a building next to Irans embassy in the Syrian capital of Damascus on Monday, killing two senior members of Irans Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Iranian state media reported, a significant escalation in a region that continues to be roiled by the war in Gaza.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/01/syria-iran-embassy-strike-israel/
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Iranian analyst and historian Arash Azzi also knows the difference.
IRGC leadership who are on the front lines of the states neighboring Israel are high-value targets, said Azizi, especially those involved in conducting operations with Hamas and Hezbollah.
What makes Mondays strike escalatory and unprecedented, Azizi added, is that the building where Zahedi and his colleagues were hit is owned by Iran, and its next to the embassy.
What makes Mondays strike escalatory and unprecedented, Azizi added, is that the building where Zahedi and his colleagues were hit is owned by Iran, and its next to the embassy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/01/syria-iran-embassy-strike-israel/
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see also
What is the difference between an embassy and a consulate?
https://uk.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/resources-for-u-s-citizens/embassy-and-consulates-general-frequently-asked-questions-faqs/
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So to review, embassies and consulates serve very different missions, embassies are not part of consulates,consulates operate under the direction of embassies, neither embassies nor consulates are the territory of the sending states, and even Iran concedes that the attack that killed the military leadership of a largely Iranian terrorist group did not occur in the Iranian embassy in Damascus.
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Just to be clear, Israel didn't attack the Iranian Embassy in Damascus,
MarineCombatEngineer
Apr 2024
#2
Hold on, a Consulate is generally the BUILDING that holds the Embassy.. WTF is the difference here?
TeamProg
Apr 2024
#48
Just saying that bombing the Iranian Consulate in an allied nation was a fantastic idea, right?
TeamProg
Apr 2024
#98
Good, everyone should have a great day and I' glad you are as am I.
MarineCombatEngineer
Apr 2024
#278
There are a lot of people who do not care about those with black or brown skin.
onecaliberal
Apr 2024
#3
Sorry man the US is a racist country. It has been organized with race in mind for years.
erodriguez
Apr 2024
#220
I'm sure Israel felt it was. I assume, they anticipated a retaliation. (If they didn't, then that's just dumb)
LeftInTX
Apr 2024
#35
And the worst part is that Smelvis and his son in law are loving this effin mess
malaise
Apr 2024
#16
There is no doubt in this DUer's mind that Putin is the puppet master,
MarineCombatEngineer
Apr 2024
#81
The obvious attempt to start a wider conflict was when Hamas invaded Israel.
Beastly Boy
Apr 2024
#94
Yeah yeah, wash-rinse-repeat. Bombing thre Iranian Consulate in a third party nation was an amazing idea, right?
TeamProg
Apr 2024
#54
It's says right there on the site; "an embassy is an official HQ for diplomats..."
oldsoftie
Apr 2024
#215
Sorry, that doesn't work on me. Your link does not say that "a consulate generally holds the embassy".
lapucelle
Apr 2024
#178
The subject was the physical location, not the missions of each dept. These pasted statements say NOTHING about the
TeamProg
Apr 2024
#175
The Iranian embassy in Syria is not located in the Iranian consulate in Syria.
lapucelle
Apr 2024
#179
Not sure it was, as it was the building next to the Embassy, not the Embassy
EX500rider
Apr 2024
#53
Israel has to be the bad guy ALL the time. Hamas, et al; are 'freedom fighters"!
oldsoftie
Apr 2024
#43
THERE IS NO FUCKING PERSON ON DU WHO IS IN FAVOR OF HAMAS. STOP BEING SO DIVISIVE.
BComplex
Apr 2024
#119
You don't think calling Hamas "freedom fighters just like Mandela" is supportive?
BannonsLiver
Apr 2024
#217
"Suspected Israeli warplanes bombed Iran's embassy in Syria on April 1 in a strike that Iran said killed seven of its
TeamProg
Apr 2024
#59
I think any perceived bulwark against the "evil west" is welcomed by a few folks here.
BannonsLiver
Apr 2024
#77
By international law, Iran bombed Israeli territory in Buenos Aires in 1992, killing 22 people
Beastly Boy
Apr 2024
#57
You mean you don't feel bad for the biggest international state sponsor of terrorism on the planet?
BannonsLiver
Apr 2024
#69
This is one of my main stances. Netanyahu (as universally agreed on MSNBC for hours) deliberately provoked Iran
Celerity
Apr 2024
#113
As far as I am concerned, support for Netanyahu (including baying for him to kick off an all out war with Iran,
Celerity
Apr 2024
#165
Yes, yesterday. A legit, longer time DU poster, not some newly spun up alt burner account.
Celerity
Apr 2024
#225
Just gotta throw this in here. Religion is destroying the whole middle east, SO
bluestarone
Apr 2024
#99
All of the combatants are killing to protect their version of the One True God.
Ping Tung
Apr 2024
#205
In a moment of incredible uncertainty, I'm so happy that we have President Biden in the Oval Office.
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 2024
#102
All I can say is thank God Joe Biden is president and not Donald Trump. Who is with me?! 🖐️
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 2024
#120
But it was OK when Iranians stormed the US embassy and kept US citizens hostage for 444 days?
LeftInTX
Apr 2024
#107
But it was OK? It was OK to abduct the hostages and take them to prisons and torture them because of the US relations?
LeftInTX
Apr 2024
#111
Statement from President Joe Biden on Iran's Attacks against the State of Israel
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 2024
#139
Israeli airstrike destroyed the Iranian consulate ANNEX NEXT to Iranian Embassy - killing 16 people.
Nanjeanne
Apr 2024
#192
I think 99% of people think Embassies ARE considered that country's territory.
oldsoftie
Apr 2024
#213
They may own the BUILDING but the land is NOT considered "foreign territory"
oldsoftie
Apr 2024
#269
A very rare joint statement from the Democratic Majority for Israel (DFMI) and Republican Jewish Committee (RJC)
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 2024
#221
And they brought in a creepy Howard Hughes clone to run their country in 1980
LeftInTX
Apr 2024
#256
Calling things what they're NOT is anti-west propaganda. I see a pattern *
Oopsie Daisy
Apr 2024
#259