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In reply to the discussion: OBAMA's Trojan Horse - No, He Won't Cave! - by David Corn [View all]BlueCaliDem
(15,444 posts)52. He got it because of 9/11, and cowed Congress with the political capital
he won afterward. There was NO WAY Congress - or we - would have allowed the war in Iraq otherwise. Richard Clarke was there when it all went down, and he writes about it in his book (excellent book, btw, and worth every penny)
Rumsfeld took advantage of 9-11 to push Iraq agenda
I expected to go back to a round of meetings [after September 11] examining what the next attacks could be, what our vulnerabilities were, what we could do about them in the short term. Instead, I walked into a series of discussions about Iraq. At first I was incredulous that we were talking about something other than getting Al Qaeda. Then I realized with almost a sharp physical pain that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were going to try to take advantage of this national tragedy to promote their agenda about Iraq. Since the beginning of the administration, indeed well before, they had been pressing for a war with Iraq.
On the morning of the 12th DOD's focus was already beginning to shift from al Qaeda. CIA was explicit now that al Qaeda was guilty of the attacks, but Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were not persuaded. It was too sophisticated and complicated an operation, they said, for a terrorist group to have pulled off by itself, without a state sponsor-Iraq must have been helping them.
Source: Against All Enemies, by Richard Clarke, chapter 1
http://www.issues2000.org/Archive/Against_All_Enemies_War_+_Peace.htm
I expected to go back to a round of meetings [after September 11] examining what the next attacks could be, what our vulnerabilities were, what we could do about them in the short term. Instead, I walked into a series of discussions about Iraq. At first I was incredulous that we were talking about something other than getting Al Qaeda. Then I realized with almost a sharp physical pain that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were going to try to take advantage of this national tragedy to promote their agenda about Iraq. Since the beginning of the administration, indeed well before, they had been pressing for a war with Iraq.
On the morning of the 12th DOD's focus was already beginning to shift from al Qaeda. CIA was explicit now that al Qaeda was guilty of the attacks, but Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were not persuaded. It was too sophisticated and complicated an operation, they said, for a terrorist group to have pulled off by itself, without a state sponsor-Iraq must have been helping them.
Source: Against All Enemies, by Richard Clarke, chapter 1
http://www.issues2000.org/Archive/Against_All_Enemies_War_+_Peace.htm
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VERY well stated! & Precisely right, there were those here, who when we lost the decision against
patrice
Nov 2012
#12
Falsely implying that Democrats with whom you disagree of being disloyal is a McCarthy tactic.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#51
Agreed, strongly agreed! PO should publicly reject "fiscal cliff" & so should we! nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#14
Ah geez. I didn't "weasel & worm, distort & evade, twist & torture". I simply reposted SSA statement
pinto
Nov 2012
#44
It's a 'fiscal bluff', R's are terrified to cut the bloated war budget....
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#18
Agreed. This Congress needs to keep their phuking mitts off of Social Security AND Medicare! nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#36
I like "Bluff" because a bluff is not only a cliff, but a deception, and it resembles
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#42
Yes, it is a great play on the word 'cliff', lol! Related geographically, but
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#55
the "white flag" has already been waved before negotiations have started. snooze nt
msongs
Nov 2012
#26
Obama could not let them expire last time because that would have rasied takes on those
JoePhilly
Nov 2012
#32
My case for letting the Bush Tax Cuts end, it ALL depends upon what we get for it:
patrice
Nov 2012
#35
Actually Joe. In the last election, the President said that he would let ALL taxes increase
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#39
Geez....are they ALL IN ON IT?!?! I am still stunned after seeing a clip of David Plouffe on
forestpath
Nov 2012
#54
I think the only difference between getting to his intended goal now or later is
lunatica
Nov 2012
#67