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In reply to the discussion: David Plouffe and a grand bargain [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)14. Well, first we need to start negotiations from a point of strength.
With Plouffe we are not.
1.- SS is off the table, period. It does not contribute to current accounts. Anybody who thinks otherwise...has bought the propaganda.
2.- What can be negotiated is raising the ceiling for contribution. I am all for removing it, but hey what about a million dollars.
3.- republicans want to cut some things like Medicaid? We raise all salaries to living wages. That will increase revenues, more people paying state and federal taxes, and reduce the need for Medicaid.
These are the kinds of serious proposals you start from, and do not budge on one.
Instead Plouffe is starting well in their wheelhouse.
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Implement Obamacare early and eliminate the SS Tax Cap. And increase taxes on people
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#6
Regarding your last sentence, I'm (honestly) curious what you would propose as a compromise.
maui902
Nov 2012
#10
We don't need to pass anything right now. If we can't get fix now, we can fix it later.
TheKentuckian
Nov 2012
#12
I didn't take your OP as what the Democrats should do as their starting point in negotiations
maui902
Nov 2012
#58
I gather from your response that your answer to my question was the latter (no compromise)
maui902
Nov 2012
#60
What, pray tell, is a 'DU pseudo progressive'???? I was right about Iraq and
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#33
The construct of 'pseudo progressive' presumes there is such a thing
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#42
We can be as angry as we want to be, but the Grand Bargain and the TPP "free-trade"
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#44
There could be plenty of bargains that are commensurate with the electoral victory
BlueStreak
Nov 2012
#46