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niyad

(130,896 posts) Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:34 AM Apr 2024

Effects from the man who set himself on fire that nobody is talking about: [View all]

Yes, the man was clearly not well, and should have had the care and treatment he so desperately needed. But I am wondering how much further the system will fail us. How many of the witnesses to that horrific moment will experIence PTSD? How many will recognize it, and be able to seek help for it? How much more collateral damage will that man's untreated condition cause?

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Effects from the man who set himself on fire that nobody is talking about: [View all] niyad Apr 2024 OP

Those are good points, we can't act as if individual violence doesn't affect us as a whole Walleye Apr 2024 #1

Exactly. There are countless observations about how witnessing acts niyad Apr 2024 #4

and how come cops couldnt get over a 4' barricade? mopinko Apr 2024 #2

I wondered about that as well. niyad Apr 2024 #3

What do you mean? They got there with the fire extinguisher in less than 2 minutes. The man was determined to mucifer Apr 2024 #31

oh, ok. i had heard it took a bit. mopinko Apr 2024 #34

well jcgoldie Apr 2024 #36

Not to make light of it but they're NY cops PCIntern Apr 2024 #42

A very good question you ask. Passages Apr 2024 #5

well stated and et tu Apr 2024 #7

Thank you. Passages Apr 2024 #15

thank you for the citation nt et tu Apr 2024 #26

Until enough of us care enough and voters demand it, nothing will change dlk Apr 2024 #6

Not directly to your point, but since the immolation is the thread topic... LAS14 Apr 2024 #8

Kitty Genovese? n/t area51 Apr 2024 #9

Completely not as hyped, that NYC much-known/much-incorrectly incident. Igel Apr 2024 #30

correct Skittles Apr 2024 #33

What was the truth? Just a summary. nt LAS14 Apr 2024 #47

someone was by her side almost immediately after the attack Skittles Apr 2024 #50

Interesting! Thanks. LAS14 Apr 2024 #56

Could we have a one sentence summary of what the truth was? nt LAS14 Apr 2024 #46

Thanks! nt LAS14 Apr 2024 #44

It was Kitty Genovese . . . SarcasticSatyr Apr 2024 #10

Thank you for that most informative link. The man who raped,and murdered niyad Apr 2024 #23

Maybe because his attorney changed his plea to not guilty by reason of insanity MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #28

Thanks! nt LAS14 Apr 2024 #45

As the link will show, Aristus Apr 2024 #12

There were numerous calls during that murder IbogaProject Apr 2024 #19

Interesting note, as we are discussing her murder. Her partner at the niyad Apr 2024 #24

Harlan Ellison was a social justice warrior MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #29

I know. I was a huge HE fan. Aristus Apr 2024 #35

Very cool! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #38

You have no doubt heard his story about someone who smarted off to him Aristus Apr 2024 #41

Didn't he use an accelerant of some kind? markodochartaigh Apr 2024 #13

Why make these comments if you don't know the details? Random Boomer Apr 2024 #14

So I could give context to my question so the detail could be addressed. nt LAS14 Apr 2024 #48

First responders are trained to act Sympthsical Apr 2024 #21

Nice Points, but Clumsy Cat. DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 2024 #25

It's not being "clumsy", it's mostly being intentional. yagotme Apr 2024 #49

That amount of gasoline Melon Apr 2024 #51

Except that story is false about Kitty obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #53

I was definitely thinking of how people who witnessed this could be affected. electric_blue68 Apr 2024 #11

That was always my issue with Dr. Kevorkian. LisaM Apr 2024 #52

You know, thanks for pointing that out. I never thought of that. shrike3 Apr 2024 #54

I saw his friends and neighbors' reactions... BigmanPigman Apr 2024 #16

We ought to be talking about the substance of his Ponzi Papers as well -- TBF Apr 2024 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #18

lol - well you have to realize not all of us are capitalists TBF Apr 2024 #20

If you have any links that don't violate the TOS of this site RandomNumbers Apr 2024 #22

If you do a search for the Ponzi Papers TBF Apr 2024 #32

Thanks, will do! (nt) RandomNumbers Apr 2024 #40

That's some seriously kooky stuff. Patton French Apr 2024 #43

Probably comments about cops being too fat and out of shape, MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #27

Perhaps this commentary is a little off the point, but B.See Apr 2024 #37

This is the third self-immolation in this country in 6 months Iris Apr 2024 #39

I did not know this. Thanks for bringing it up. shrike3 Apr 2024 #55