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maui902

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55. Respectfully, that does not sound like compromise

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:36 AM

Nov 2012

Compromise entails giving up something that is of some value to you in exchange for the other party to the negotiation giving up something that is of value to him or her. If you are not going to budge on the proposals you cite as examples, it does not appear you are "all for compromise" as you suggested in your original post. And if enough Democrats in Congress share your position, we will end up with sequestration (automatic spending cuts more drastic than what has been proposed by the President) and tax hikes (including higher payroll taxes) for everyone. I have no issue with beginning negotiations from a position of strength, but if Democrats are as unwilling to compromise as you and many others on DU appear to be, there will be no deal, no "grand bargain", in which case lots of regular folks will be impacted negatively.

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David Plouffe and a grand bargain [View all] nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 OP

Well then get on the phone and push back. Skidmore Nov 2012 #1

I will do one better nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #2

PHONE! x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #17

I saw that on Ed's show too. I am stunned. He was almost GLOATING over it. forestpath Nov 2012 #3

Neo liberal is, neo liberal does nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #4

Well, I am an OLD-FASHIONED BLEEDING HEART liberal...and nobody who votes to forestpath Nov 2012 #5

Gloating? That's what you call gloating? MrSlayer Nov 2012 #8

Excuse me? I was talking about DAVID PLOUFFE gloating - NOT ED! forestpath Nov 2012 #13

Ah, my apologies. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #16

No problem, that is understandable! Am still reeling myself. forestpath Nov 2012 #20

Implement Obamacare early and eliminate the SS Tax Cap. And increase taxes on people bluestate10 Nov 2012 #6

I will even compromise to $500,000 nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #7

And make stock income taxable as regular earned income quakerboy Nov 2012 #21

If he likes austerity, he needs to start with his class of millionaires, not Cleita Nov 2012 #9

This is why I said nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11

It wouldn't be very smart to stay home. Next Cleita Nov 2012 #22

It s not whether it is smart or not nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #38

Regarding your last sentence, I'm (honestly) curious what you would propose as a compromise. maui902 Nov 2012 #10

We don't need to pass anything right now. If we can't get fix now, we can fix it later. TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #12

I like this strategy but I doubt it is the one they will follow Liberalynn Nov 2012 #15

Well, first we need to start negotiations from a point of strength. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14

And why not cut some foreign aid? Sadiedog Nov 2012 #19

We need to cut military spending. That's the elephant in the room. Cleita Nov 2012 #23

Foreign aid is actually a minuscule part of the budget nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #28

Thank you for your reply. Sadiedog Nov 2012 #32

I know. The people who want to do that nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #35

Much appreciation. I want to call but want to be informed first. Sadiedog Nov 2012 #39

Oh you welcome. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #41

We don't actually send much wilsonbooks Nov 2012 #31

Thanks for the post. I am really trying to make sense of all this! NT Sadiedog Nov 2012 #34

You are very welcome wilsonbooks Nov 2012 #37

Much appreciation! nt Sadiedog Nov 2012 #40

Respectfully, that does not sound like compromise maui902 Nov 2012 #55

Respectfully that is where you start a negotiation nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #57

I didn't take your OP as what the Democrats should do as their starting point in negotiations maui902 Nov 2012 #58

Enjoy the coming losses in 2014 nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #59

I gather from your response that your answer to my question was the latter (no compromise) maui902 Nov 2012 #60

No, whoosh! nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #61

There will be lots of hyperventilating alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #18

'DU pseudo-progressives' marmar Nov 2012 #24

I love the attack line nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #27

Well said! nt One of the 99 Nov 2012 #29

What, pray tell, is a 'DU pseudo progressive'???? I was right about Iraq and coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #33

Well alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #36

The construct of 'pseudo progressive' presumes there is such a thing coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #42

I wouldn't pretend to speak for the Mayor alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #43

I think that you misunderstood him. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #45

If you John2 Nov 2012 #51

It's not clear what you think I think alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #52

Just who John2 Nov 2012 #47

Welcome to DU alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #50

my teevee only has republicans pushing 'entitlement reform' 24/7 spanone Nov 2012 #25

Please everyone just Chill Out a bit. sheshe2 Nov 2012 #26

Groveristic BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #30

We can be as angry as we want to be, but the Grand Bargain and the TPP "free-trade" AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #44

There could be plenty of bargains that are commensurate with the electoral victory BlueStreak Nov 2012 #46

A page from the GOP playbook decayincl Nov 2012 #48

Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #49

Fuckin' A! TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #56

Clip from Big Ed's show tonight here: (VIDEO) Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #53

T agree with you! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #54