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In reply to the discussion: OBAMA's Trojan Horse - No, He Won't Cave! - by David Corn [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)66. Democrats have been putting up a united front.
Patty Murray: If GOP Refuses All Tax Hikes, Well Let Them Go Up And Start Over
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021791837
SPINE! President Obama Will Let ALL the Bush Tax Cuts Expire......if he doesn't get what he wants.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021775710
I'm not going to do that!!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021786489
Pelosi and Reid Have OBAMA's BACK: No Social Security Cuts & Taxes MUST Be RAISED On The RICH
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021843971
Democratic Senator Introduces Bill To Lift Social Securitys Tax Cap, Extend Solvency For Decades
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021834952
Other signatories:
Sens. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Tim Johnson (D-S.D.), John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.)
This doesn't include Elizabeth Warren and other new Senators.
A mandate on ending tax cuts for the rich
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021792535
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021791837
SPINE! President Obama Will Let ALL the Bush Tax Cuts Expire......if he doesn't get what he wants.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021775710
I'm not going to do that!!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021786489
Pelosi and Reid Have OBAMA's BACK: No Social Security Cuts & Taxes MUST Be RAISED On The RICH
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021843971
Democratic Senator Introduces Bill To Lift Social Securitys Tax Cap, Extend Solvency For Decades
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021834952
Do Not Cut Social Security
September 20, 2012
A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security as part of a deficit reduction deal. "We will oppose including Social Security cuts for future or current beneficiaries in any deficit reduction package," the senators said in a letter circulated by Sen. Bernie Sanders, the founder of the Senate Defending Social Security Caucus. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer, the Senate's No. 3 leader, signed the letter. So did Sens. Mark Begich, Sheldon Whitehouse and Al Franken, who joined Sanders at a Capitol news conference.
Social Security has not contributed to the deficit or to the national debt, the senators said. The program that benefits more than 50 million retirees, widows, widowers, orphans and disabled Americans has a $2.7 trillion surplus and, according to actuaries, will be able to pay every benefit owed to every eligible recipient for the next 21 years.
"Contrary to some claims, Social Security is not the cause of our nation's deficit problem. Not only does the program operate independently, but it is prohibited from borrowing," the letter said. "Even though Social Security operates in a fiscally responsible manner, some still advocate deep benefit cuts and seem convinced that Social Security hands out lavish welfare checks. But Social Security is not welfare. Seniors earned their benefits by working and paying into the system," the letter added.
Social Security has not contributed to deficits because it has a dedicated funding stream. Workers and employers each pay half of a 12.4 percent payroll tax on the first $110,100 of a worker's wages. The tax rate for employees was reduced to 4.2 percent in 2011 and 2012, but is scheduled to return to 6.2 percent in January.
To read the letter, click here »
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=066FB085-5798-4E6C-ABA2-85549D84DFA6
September 20, 2012
A major bloc of 29 senators took a strong stand today against any cuts to Social Security as part of a deficit reduction deal. "We will oppose including Social Security cuts for future or current beneficiaries in any deficit reduction package," the senators said in a letter circulated by Sen. Bernie Sanders, the founder of the Senate Defending Social Security Caucus. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer, the Senate's No. 3 leader, signed the letter. So did Sens. Mark Begich, Sheldon Whitehouse and Al Franken, who joined Sanders at a Capitol news conference.
Social Security has not contributed to the deficit or to the national debt, the senators said. The program that benefits more than 50 million retirees, widows, widowers, orphans and disabled Americans has a $2.7 trillion surplus and, according to actuaries, will be able to pay every benefit owed to every eligible recipient for the next 21 years.
"Contrary to some claims, Social Security is not the cause of our nation's deficit problem. Not only does the program operate independently, but it is prohibited from borrowing," the letter said. "Even though Social Security operates in a fiscally responsible manner, some still advocate deep benefit cuts and seem convinced that Social Security hands out lavish welfare checks. But Social Security is not welfare. Seniors earned their benefits by working and paying into the system," the letter added.
Social Security has not contributed to deficits because it has a dedicated funding stream. Workers and employers each pay half of a 12.4 percent payroll tax on the first $110,100 of a worker's wages. The tax rate for employees was reduced to 4.2 percent in 2011 and 2012, but is scheduled to return to 6.2 percent in January.
To read the letter, click here »
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=066FB085-5798-4E6C-ABA2-85549D84DFA6
Other signatories:
Sens. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Tim Johnson (D-S.D.), John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.)
This doesn't include Elizabeth Warren and other new Senators.
A mandate on ending tax cuts for the rich
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021792535
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VERY well stated! & Precisely right, there were those here, who when we lost the decision against
patrice
Nov 2012
#12
Falsely implying that Democrats with whom you disagree of being disloyal is a McCarthy tactic.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#51
Agreed, strongly agreed! PO should publicly reject "fiscal cliff" & so should we! nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#14
Ah geez. I didn't "weasel & worm, distort & evade, twist & torture". I simply reposted SSA statement
pinto
Nov 2012
#44
It's a 'fiscal bluff', R's are terrified to cut the bloated war budget....
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#18
Agreed. This Congress needs to keep their phuking mitts off of Social Security AND Medicare! nt
patrice
Nov 2012
#36
I like "Bluff" because a bluff is not only a cliff, but a deception, and it resembles
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#42
Yes, it is a great play on the word 'cliff', lol! Related geographically, but
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#55
the "white flag" has already been waved before negotiations have started. snooze nt
msongs
Nov 2012
#26
Obama could not let them expire last time because that would have rasied takes on those
JoePhilly
Nov 2012
#32
My case for letting the Bush Tax Cuts end, it ALL depends upon what we get for it:
patrice
Nov 2012
#35
Actually Joe. In the last election, the President said that he would let ALL taxes increase
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#39
Geez....are they ALL IN ON IT?!?! I am still stunned after seeing a clip of David Plouffe on
forestpath
Nov 2012
#54
I think the only difference between getting to his intended goal now or later is
lunatica
Nov 2012
#67