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Pachamama

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23. This was in clear defiance of what Mango Mussolini would want

Sun Apr 21, 2024, 08:12 PM

Apr 2024

Had nothing to do with permission.

Johnson clearly read the writing on the wall that he is damned if he does hold the vote on Ukraine - but more damned if he doesn’t.

He got the intelligence briefings - it was chilling and clear.

Will he lose his speakership as a result and have no future politically? Likely. But had he not brought this to vote his name would be forever tied and his name cursed to Ukraine falling and likely Europe and WW3 and US soldiers dying as part of us fighting Russia. History would not be kind to him and his memory.

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Johnson's about-face on Ukraine. My Ex thinks Trump gave him permission [View all] Nictuku Apr 2024 OP

Makes me wonder what he heard in those intelligence briefings Raven123 Apr 2024 #1

I bet it was something along the lines of Russia not stopping at Ukraine and going after a NATO country soon maryellen99 Apr 2024 #4

I think this could be a part of it, for sure. He did mention it Nictuku Apr 2024 #9

Interesting...Mike's got game in smart geo-politics. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2024 #27

Whatever concerned him enough to worry about his son going to war. He is going to military college Bev54 Apr 2024 #37

I don't think TFG's got the stroke over Congress some people think he does. I think Democrats made it clear ... marble falls Apr 2024 #2

I think so, too. Democrats threw him a lifeline. Midnight Writer Apr 2024 #12

Neither does MTG Pachamama Apr 2024 #24

She can challenge him at any time. The only way she can drop him is if Democrats turn on him the way they ... marble falls Apr 2024 #36

I think Dems also made it clear to him that he would go down in history as the one who gave Ukraine to Russia... brush Apr 2024 #29

Beue of the fifth column did a piece on this..... getagrip_already Apr 2024 #3

I'm not quite sure I know what you mean Nictuku Apr 2024 #6

Twitter faction..... getagrip_already Apr 2024 #20

He's said WAY too many stupid things in the past..... Red Mountain Apr 2024 #8

I think some fundie Baptist ministers brought him into the light. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2024 #5

Pence is livid Trump (currently) doesn't support a total abortion ban. Maybe Johnson is too, and realized 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2024 #7

Ahh, interesting. I hadn't thought of that angle. Thank you! Nictuku Apr 2024 #13

As long as Ukraine gets the help they need. Demobrat Apr 2024 #10

I know, I've been so upset about this Nictuku Apr 2024 #14

FWIW Johnson was nodding along w Biden at the SOTU when Biden spoke of aid for Ukraine. emulatorloo Apr 2024 #11

Yeah, I was watching that very closely Nictuku Apr 2024 #16

The last person in the world gab13by13 Apr 2024 #15

I agree Nictuku Apr 2024 #17

Proof will be in Trump's reaction to the Ukraine aid bill. How's he gonna play that? OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2024 #30

I don't think so. I reao he's seen the polling Cha Apr 2024 #18

There were 101 votes to pass Ukraine aid from the other side. And just before that BootinUp Apr 2024 #19

In that light, it makes sense Nictuku Apr 2024 #21

218 BootinUp Apr 2024 #22

This was in clear defiance of what Mango Mussolini would want Pachamama Apr 2024 #23

I think he just took out his pocket calculator and did some addition DFW Apr 2024 #25

Trump isn't the same snarling, roaring tiger of the past. no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 #26

Republicans want TikTok bad enough to give $60 B to Ukraine. live love laugh Apr 2024 #28

Trump is the one who demanded that some of the Ukraine money... CousinIT Apr 2024 #31

Sometimes ._. Apr 2024 #32

MAGA Mike is weak by nuture and nature GenThePerservering Apr 2024 #33

It became personal to him jrandom421 Apr 2024 #34

I read an Axios article that explained it was all about the okaawhatever Apr 2024 #35