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Orrex

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137. Fuck Hamas indeed, but what about Palestinian civilians in the meantime?

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:07 PM

Apr 2024

Since Hamas is unlikely to release their hostages, and since it’s not even clear that they have the ability to do so at this point, does that give Bibi the green light to continue slaughtering civilians?

Every last member of Hamas should be wiped out, but that has little to do with the innocent Palestinians who continue to suffer.

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Gaza has been burnt to the ground [View all] malaise Apr 2024 OP

It is sickening what is happening over there. I with you on this. OLDMDDEM Apr 2024 #1

Protest isn't only justified, it is urgently needed. David__77 Apr 2024 #2

And use caution when blaming Biden. It's Netanyahu. forgotmylogin Apr 2024 #142

I would argue that there's no better time to attempt to influence an incumbent. jimmiles Apr 2024 #241

I totally understand. forgotmylogin Apr 2024 #244

Burnt to the ground? jimfields33 Apr 2024 #3

sorry to hear that the level of devastation doesn't meet your criteria, I guess tell Netanyahu to speed it up Celerity Apr 2024 #12

Thank you. niyad Apr 2024 #20

Thank you malaise Apr 2024 #25

Powerful photos PatSeg Apr 2024 #26

Shame claudette Apr 2024 #35

the dis-proportionality of response long ago crossed into war crimes territory IMHO, but hey, some assholes Celerity Apr 2024 #66

Yeah, you got that right. When Jared talked about developing beachfront property in Gaza, it made PatrickforB Apr 2024 #114

Protests at Columbia OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #127

Campus police? N/T lapucelle Apr 2024 #195

You don't say? Sugarcoated Apr 2024 #207

Yes I heard bdamomma Apr 2024 #212

Sports scholarship Homoudont Apr 2024 #238

Has that changed? SomewhereInTheMiddle Apr 2024 #239

According to her mom, my sister OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #243

My mistake OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #252

Great post sis malaise Apr 2024 #130

thank you Celerity Apr 2024 #200

It seems comparable to Berlin, at the end of WW2... lastlib Apr 2024 #44

That's what it reminds me of, too obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #70

Me too MFM008 Apr 2024 #225

Or Dresden... csziggy Apr 2024 #136

You can bdamomma Apr 2024 #214

Tokyo suffered far worse, as did Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Martin68 Apr 2024 #198

From the river to the sea Pompoy Apr 2024 #232

From Likud (and other smaller radical RW parties) all the way back to the early 20th century Revisionist Zionists Celerity Apr 2024 #248

Thank you for posting these... mountain grammy Apr 2024 #56

Totally, straight from Naomi Klein. The oligarchs will move in with bulldozers as soon as all the people are dead and PatrickforB Apr 2024 #116

Meryl warned us malaise Apr 2024 #185

I think the Shock Doctrine approach is about snot Apr 2024 #141

no doubt at all mountain grammy Apr 2024 #151

Netanyahu can have Slobodan's cell at The Hague., buildings CAN be rebuilt, but NOT the THIRTY-THREE THOUSAND lives. TeamProg Apr 2024 #62

Thank you BuddhaGirl Apr 2024 #75

Thank you. Goddessartist Apr 2024 #84

I've been told that Israel should be praised for its restraint Orrex Apr 2024 #93

Great question malaise Apr 2024 #146

Your point is indeed valid. Yieks! jimfields33 Apr 2024 #105

Perhaps you should not be so casual about some of your comments? PufPuf23 Apr 2024 #134

You provided evidence. I thanked you. jimfields33 Apr 2024 #135

Celerity provided the visuals of Gaza. PufPuf23 Apr 2024 #140

Thank you for your reply. Celerity Apr 2024 #169

Thank you AmBlue Apr 2024 #110

Wars are super-destructive. Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #111

These pictures are worth a thousand words. Innocent people keep being killed and there needs to be PEACE now. PatrickforB Apr 2024 #113

wow... myohmy2 Apr 2024 #160

Thanks, Cel, for always having receipts Bettie Apr 2024 #184

She sure is malaise Apr 2024 #188

thanks sis Celerity Apr 2024 #196

Perfect selection malaise Apr 2024 #199

awwww, thanks Celerity Apr 2024 #189

It will take generations Mr.Bill Apr 2024 #192

Thank you whopis01 Apr 2024 #203

Thank you from me, as well. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #210

Heartbreaking. calimary Apr 2024 #227

I wish you'd post this as an OP iemanja Apr 2024 #247

The end game for Israel & the Palestinians in not pretty. No one, Arab or West, is looking to send $$$ to rebuild Gaza dutch777 Apr 2024 #4

"Blinken has commitment from 5 Arab leaders to help rebuild post-war Gaza speak easy Apr 2024 #5

I suspect the west is very much looking... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #8

Ding ding malaise Apr 2024 #147

Who in their right mind would develop "beachfront property" in GAZA? oldsoftie Apr 2024 #190

um, yeah.... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #194

Jared's a proven idiot. Go ahead. No one in their right mind would vacation there oldsoftie Apr 2024 #236

Not rebuild? Oh yes they will. They can't wait to build condos for more Israelis. flying_wahini Apr 2024 #17

just ask jared- nt et tu Apr 2024 #37

Oh capitalism loves a disaster Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #47

War sucks. Don't start them, Hamas. Bad Thoughts Apr 2024 #6

Yup... agingdem Apr 2024 #23

Netanyahu kept Hamas in power because of their shared goals. Autumn Apr 2024 #39

Netanyahu MUST go. But this still falls on Hamas. oldsoftie Apr 2024 #161

Amen means I agree. Here's a huge AMEN. n/t aggiesal Apr 2024 #40

You just stated you believe in collective punishment obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #71

I believe retaliation in an unprovoked war agingdem Apr 2024 #73

Unprovoked is a hoot. Butterflylady Apr 2024 #106

that stance would perhaps end with you up on trial for war crimes if you were the supreme commander of a nation Celerity Apr 2024 #204

so Ukraine is in a war they did not provoke... agingdem Apr 2024 #208

If Ukraine is committing war crimes then there should be accountability. Same for Russia, Hamas, and Israel, and any Celerity Apr 2024 #213

Finally reality-who started this war with permission for Hammas to start this war-Palestinians Stargazer99 Apr 2024 #78

Yes, war sucks Butterflylady Apr 2024 #104

Israel has been under attack for 75 years.. agingdem Apr 2024 #107

As have the Palestinians. If you look at total death tolls for the two sides since 1948, you will find it staggeringly Celerity Apr 2024 #216

Don't start a war if you're not willing to pay the price... agingdem Apr 2024 #217

as if the Palestinians started the Nakbah, for instance Celerity Apr 2024 #230

THIS malaise Apr 2024 #240

Fighting address security concerns Bad Thoughts Apr 2024 #122

I will give a damn once the hostages are relased The Mouth Apr 2024 #109

Fuck Hamas indeed, but what about Palestinian civilians in the meantime? Orrex Apr 2024 #137

Palestinians are not all innocent victims... agingdem Apr 2024 #144

Nope, that's not true... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #152

and yet 70% of the Palestinians supported the agingdem Apr 2024 #156

I'd be interested to see how exactly that poll was conducted Orrex Apr 2024 #164

The Palestinian Center for Policy Survey and Research conducted it oldsoftie Apr 2024 #165

Thank you for the link Orrex Apr 2024 #168

Yes, I've heard that exact propaganda here many, many times Orrex Apr 2024 #166

How does a hostage take NOT have the ability to release them? oldsoftie Apr 2024 #163

Seriously? Orrex Apr 2024 #167

in each of those examples they still have the ability to release their hostages oldsoftie Apr 2024 #191

Do you honestly believe that Netanyahu would settle for a partial release? Orrex Apr 2024 #201

I suspect the hostages are dead... agingdem Apr 2024 #215

Because they're a murderous, unrepentant terrorist regime Orrex Apr 2024 #220

Netanyahu must go. But he's agreed to partial releases before too. oldsoftie Apr 2024 #237

Thank you DaBronx Apr 2024 #159

Except claudette Apr 2024 #42

IDF fights Hamas on its territory Bad Thoughts Apr 2024 #118

ok claudette Apr 2024 #123

Wanton destruction of civilian culture and infrastructure far past meaningful defense is not war. nt PufPuf23 Apr 2024 #138

See my orignal post Bad Thoughts Apr 2024 #149

Look where the tunnel systems are located. Thats where you have to destroy everything. oldsoftie Apr 2024 #162

war crimes ought to be punished. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #48

Starting with rape and kidnapping? Bad Thoughts Apr 2024 #119

Starting with them? Absolutely. Orrex Apr 2024 #139

Yes, indeed Bad Thoughts Apr 2024 #150

... and mass starving and using food as a weapon. We expect terrorists to act like terrorists uponit7771 Apr 2024 #178

Yep. They fucked around and found out. beaglelover Apr 2024 #87

This did NOT start on October 7, 2023. PhylliPretzel Apr 2024 #95

Nakba: Arab nations attack nascent Israel in order to commit ethnic cleansing Bad Thoughts Apr 2024 #120

THIS malaise Apr 2024 #148

So does occupation and oppression uponit7771 Apr 2024 #97

When were 1000+ killed every month before 10/7? Bad Thoughts Apr 2024 #121

This was always going to be a bloodbath. Ray Bruns Apr 2024 #101

I am heartbroken. BlueMTexpat Apr 2024 #7

Jew hate isn't protest Sympthsical Apr 2024 #9

I will say that some people view Hamas as freedom fighters, as crazy as that may sound. nt LexVegas Apr 2024 #10

One thing that always sticks out to me Sympthsical Apr 2024 #14

Yes. betsuni Apr 2024 #88

Not just fine with it, they wear their keffiyeh they bought on Amazon and pretend to be one of them. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #102

I've read that many Gazans view Hamas as the only thing that stands between them and Israeli attacks. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #21

Who is it claudette Apr 2024 #34

Who started this war? I don't remember the Jews starting the slaughtering in fact just the opposite Stargazer99 Apr 2024 #81

Hamas had to know how Netanyahu would respond. Martin Eden Apr 2024 #22

Hamas leaders readily admit all of this lapfog_1 Apr 2024 #218

If enough Palestinian people realize this, that could be the surest demise of Hamas. Martin Eden Apr 2024 #223

When i saw that post i was dumbfounded. revmclaren Apr 2024 #205

Is supporting the Palestinian people "Jew hate?" Chainfire Apr 2024 #29

You know very well of what I speak Sympthsical Apr 2024 #30

They are pissed. Do you not understand why? Chainfire Apr 2024 #143

I assure you DaBronx Apr 2024 #187

So no one is permitted to support Palestinians AloeVera Apr 2024 #193

The narrative has shifted Orrex Apr 2024 #202

It has and it does, indeed AloeVera Apr 2024 #211

I don't hate Jews claudette Apr 2024 #38

Are you pretending that antisemitism hasn't become a problem at these protests? Sympthsical Apr 2024 #57

I'm not pretending claudette Apr 2024 #59

Post removed Post removed Apr 2024 #65

THIS malaise Apr 2024 #133

Are you pretending that anti-Palestinian views haven't moniss Apr 2024 #91

You mean claudette Apr 2024 #61

I am sure the Jews remember the slaughter in World War II-where were you? Stargazer99 Apr 2024 #80

I'll tell you where my parents were...Auschwitz! agingdem Apr 2024 #89

Yes...my "favorite"... agingdem Apr 2024 #86

Yes these protesters Spread their Sickening Anti-Semitic Ugly Ass Hate All Over the Place. Cha Apr 2024 #226

Good thing we just authorized more military aid hueymahl Apr 2024 #11

Netanyahu knew. The IDF knew LuvLoogie Apr 2024 #13

Perhaps in the same way we knew, "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" elias7 Apr 2024 #41

Except that Israel was in possession of a Hamas document that detailed what they were planning. LuvLoogie Apr 2024 #242

Thank you, Malaise. The end doesn't justify the means. TheRickles Apr 2024 #15

The historicity of Exodus is highly questionable VMA131Marine Apr 2024 #79

Yes, I know and agree. I was referring more to the mythic and emotional resonance that has taken hold, TheRickles Apr 2024 #85

Just LOOK what Hamas has done to the Palestinian people! Shame on them! Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #16

Except claudette Apr 2024 #33

Hamas is putting them in harm's way. Hamas is a legitimate target * Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #64

Finally the voice of reason instead of emotional response only Stargazer99 Apr 2024 #82

Hamas REGULARLY bombs innocents. Hieronymus Phact Apr 2024 #90

There are many who believe the Hamas propaganda (and who also repeat it in various political forums.) Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #126

Hamas isn't starving people The Chef said Bibi is and Chef has more credibility uponit7771 Apr 2024 #98

Yes, they are. Through their cowardly efforts of blending-in with civilians * Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #125

The Chef is more credible than the IDF and Bibi uponit7771 Apr 2024 #177

Sure. Go with that. Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #180

Facts and reality have benefits uponit7771 Apr 2024 #181

Keep searching... Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #182

Hamas is Starving Palestinas.. I just posted this.. Fatah Confirms it.. Cha Apr 2024 #229

YES HAMAS IS Starving Palestinians.. Hamas is NOT Clean.. They're Fucking Terrorists. Cha Apr 2024 #228

Peace is not a goal. twodogsbarking Apr 2024 #18

Certainly it isn;t for Hamas. Never was. NT Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #24

And this is why Hamas must be destroyed. They have no interest in peace. Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #28

The IDF is actively working to destroy all of Gaza, not Hamas iemanja Apr 2024 #246

not for bibi- et tu Apr 2024 #43

Not even at DU. twodogsbarking Apr 2024 #51

Peace would involve a two state solution. Something that Netanyahu and Hamas will never allow. Autumn Apr 2024 #53

Is this now allowed to be said here? LiberalArkie Apr 2024 #19

Why wouldn't it be? claudette Apr 2024 #32

When was it ever disallowed? TwilightZone Apr 2024 #60

Despite the allegations on this thread, I've whathehell Apr 2024 #108

I sure haven't said any thing like that LiberalArkie Apr 2024 #124

Go back through my replies/posts. revmclaren Apr 2024 #206

How about you providing it whathehell Apr 2024 #219

You could try ...hamas freedom fighters democraticunderground.com revmclaren Apr 2024 #221

Lol...You got nothing. whathehell Apr 2024 #222

Well, another words you didn't look. revmclaren Apr 2024 #224

Well, "another" words, lol, I didn't need to.. whathehell Apr 2024 #231

If justice prevails, history will not be kind. nt TeamProg Apr 2024 #27

I'm with you claudette Apr 2024 #31

The protesters I see are for Hamas. former9thward Apr 2024 #46

"Protesters are not FOR Hamas" I must inform you, your belief is incorrect. sarisataka Apr 2024 #52

No claudette Apr 2024 #58

In order to see, one must choose to look sarisataka Apr 2024 #63

Opinions are not facts. TwilightZone Apr 2024 #69

We definitely need to react sarisataka Apr 2024 #36

Please do not omit mention of Codifer Apr 2024 #45

Absolutely - Putin has been playing chess and I'm sure is behind Hamas funding TBF Apr 2024 #67

What happens when Hamas callously decides to sacrifice their own people JCMach1 Apr 2024 #49

Gaza picked a fight Mountainguy Apr 2024 #50

Gaza didn't pick a fight -- wtf obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #68

So gaza exists ina vaccum from Hamas? Mountainguy Apr 2024 #129

Nope, not true... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #154

This is false on its face uponit7771 Apr 2024 #99

Its not Mountainguy Apr 2024 #132

Same goes for KKK and Americans? Dehumanizing people with broad negative generalizations isn't progressive uponit7771 Apr 2024 #175

Guess i missed the part where the KKK was in control of government for a few decades Mountainguy Apr 2024 #183

Woodrow Wilson?!?!?!!?! uponit7771 Apr 2024 #253

It is day 200 - any sympathy for hostages being held? That's a rhetorical question. TBF Apr 2024 #54

Is IDF still shooting them as they surrender? uponit7771 Apr 2024 #100

I have absolute sympathy for the hostages. moniss Apr 2024 #145

Yes I referenced a 2-state solution for a reason - TBF Apr 2024 #158

Their actions are delegitimizing Israel in the eyes of much of the world. hay rick Apr 2024 #55

Post removed Post removed Apr 2024 #72

Be very careful. 3 words got a hide yesterday. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #74

Me too enid602 Apr 2024 #103

"[Hamas] had to have factored in from the start that Gaza City above them would be leveled by the Israelis. So be it. betsuni Apr 2024 #76

Oh. Ok. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #77

I agree with you 100% Goddessartist Apr 2024 #83

Stands out. Our youth is the worlds hope. Passages Apr 2024 #92

Proud of all,the young people malaise Apr 2024 #172

They are being killed at an alarming rate. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #179

To quote loosely: Beware of slaying monsters, lest you become one. ananda Apr 2024 #94

K&R spanone Apr 2024 #96

Deuteronomy provides motivation for genocide. Compromise in a religious war is blasphemy, in Canaan or in Congress. Marcuse Apr 2024 #112

So Hamas is 100% responsible Cthulu on call Apr 2024 #115

I am 100% against ethnic cleansing, genocide and other war crimes. Initech Apr 2024 #117

Post removed Post removed Apr 2024 #128

Fair enough. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #131

This is utterly unforgivable. Israel has made itself into the world's pariah. Sky Jewels Apr 2024 #153

While I don't disagree with your assessment..... AZ8theist Apr 2024 #157

Yet, Hamas is still bombing Israel. I don't know where they are getting their rockets from. Six rockets on Apr 23 LeftInTX Apr 2024 #155

Agreed Malaise. Evolve Dammit Apr 2024 #170

Significant: Passages Apr 2024 #171

This is huge malaise Apr 2024 #173

Yes. Passages Apr 2024 #174

I'm done with threads like this. Aussie105 Apr 2024 #176

Horrible Catherine Vincent Apr 2024 #186

Immoral and soulless. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #233

Yes, radical religious fundamentalist Hamas terrorist are immoral and soulless. betsuni Apr 2024 #234

Indeed they are, and wholly deserving of whatever befalls them Orrex Apr 2024 #249

Yes, it does. This was the Hamas war plan. betsuni Apr 2024 #250

Is Netanyahu aware that he's working toward Hamas' goals, then? Orrex Apr 2024 #251

I think rather than "burnt to the ground" adjectives like "demolished," "pulverized," and "annihalated" more accurately Martin68 Apr 2024 #197

Israelis bdamomma Apr 2024 #209

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2024 #235

Speaker Johnson's departure from Columbia University. Passages Apr 2024 #245