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Silent3

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12. If there's anyone out there even close to revolution, it's the teabaggers...

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:52 AM

Nov 2012

...not anyone whose discontent is coming from the left. And despite all of their loud fussing and pouting, I don't think the teabaggers are all that close to revolution either.

I'll be happy with a slow evolution toward a more just society. True revolutions don't have a good track record for achieving better conditions. They often either revert to the same mess as before, or create new kinds of injustice and misery at the expense of a lot of misery and bloodshed to get there.

It's not dismissing or belittling the real and serious injustices in our society to say that we're still a bit of distance from the kind of mess we'd have to be in for true revolution to be worth the risk as an attempted solution.

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Bad news for those wanting revolution. [View all] JNelson6563 Nov 2012 OP

JNelson6563, I think there's a flip side to that question... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #1

Agreed! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #2

Thank you for the compliment! a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #4

When has "pure" socialism ever been tried correctly? libtodeath Nov 2012 #3

What is "pure" socialism? Bradical79 Nov 2012 #5

I wasnt the one using the phrase just copying it libtodeath Nov 2012 #8

Oy... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #6

And capitalisim has been so wonderful for the 99% of us. libtodeath Nov 2012 #9

Capitalism seems to work for the Social Democracies... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #11

Nonsense,you were the one who was trashing an economic system without acknowledging libtodeath Nov 2012 #17

actually... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #40

Show me a capitalist system that has not enriched a few and enslaved the rest libtodeath Nov 2012 #54

enslaved??? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #60

Yes for all practical purposes enslaved libtodeath Nov 2012 #63

playing "it's the same as" is a mug's game a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #78

And you are spreading rw points more then progressive ideals libtodeath Nov 2012 #86

so it's socialism or right winger? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #95

Now who is clutching at strawmen libtodeath Nov 2012 #97

sigh... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #98

Seems an odd statement given your postings totally throwing socialism aside from the start libtodeath Nov 2012 #102

I've yet to meet any socialists that only want to try a limited experiment with only a few people, a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #106

You obviously don't have any idea of what slavery is mythology Nov 2012 #119

Your list appears to be meaningless PETRUS Nov 2012 #31

yet those are nations that self identify as socialist... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #43

Thoughts PETRUS Nov 2012 #72

The One Drop rule was a court decision that allowed a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #84

Yeah, I know. PETRUS Nov 2012 #104

thoughts on your thoughts a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #105

Cool. What are you working on? PETRUS Nov 2012 #107

a few ideas... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #108

Why rafts? PETRUS Nov 2012 #109

A few reasons a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #110

thank you libtodeath Nov 2012 #58

You bet! PETRUS Nov 2012 #81

"pure" socialism would be just as bad as "pure" capitalism. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #33

The Nordic social democracies seem to work... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #46

one MAJOR difference between us and them... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #50

hmmm... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #56

i'm saying that the nordic countries don't have to deal with internal racism... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #62

I'd redirect that a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #77

and those "others" tend to be people of another race/culture... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #79

I don't think European societies are racially homogenous any more! LongTomH Nov 2012 #59

the nordic countries are. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #66

Yet another blame-the-Working-Class thread leftstreet Nov 2012 #7

Whatever. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #10

So you'd rather go to the movies than get a physical? leftstreet Nov 2012 #13

I don't do either of those things. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #20

But your OP was about lazy irresponsible people leftstreet Nov 2012 #22

It was about content people. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #24

Work all that into an OP. Maybe you'll start a revolution leftstreet Nov 2012 #25

What a silly mistake! Thank you! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #30

If there's anyone out there even close to revolution, it's the teabaggers... Silent3 Nov 2012 #12

Good points. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #26

Thank you... 99Forever Nov 2012 #14

cheap shot... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #15

As am I. 99Forever Nov 2012 #18

You're saying you're cheap? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #48

A question. 99Forever Nov 2012 #61

WARNING L*O*N*G* POST a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #75

Predictable, huh. woo me with science Nov 2012 #16

Aren't you glad... 99Forever Nov 2012 #19

Actually I'm a woman JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #21

Maybe you should work on your own... 99Forever Nov 2012 #47

Most want the same thing. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #70

Isn't what I was saying? 99Forever Nov 2012 #74

I don't believe I offered a plan. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #85

You do realize the French Revolution nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #27

For those not paying attention... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #36

I am the wrong target nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #38

Actually 2naSalit Nov 2012 #42

No problem. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #45

I'd rather see the rich deprived. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #23

You are correct nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #28

Good point! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #53

The revolution is already far along in process. Things are going extremely well. Zorra Nov 2012 #29

I wouldn't stop it. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #34

I kind of didn't think you would. Zorra Nov 2012 #37

That's exactly what I've been doing for years now... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #39

"Effective marketing" AlexSatan Nov 2012 #32

Effective in that JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #35

Thank you for this OP 2naSalit Nov 2012 #41

Thanks for the kind words! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #49

I thought that 2naSalit Nov 2012 #64

Wow! Good luck! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #65

Thanks, 2naSalit Nov 2012 #73

In reality AlexSatan Nov 2012 #100

The Consumer Culture Is The Primary Driver of Income Inequality Much More So Than Tax Cuts Yavin4 Nov 2012 #44

Wish I could rec your post! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #51

Absolutely right Savannahmann Nov 2012 #52

They Also Have Strong Labor Unions and Work Less Hours Than People in Greece!! Yavin4 Nov 2012 #89

Wrong. Profit is the primary driver of $1 an hour labor leftstreet Nov 2012 #57

Disagree. People See Themselves As Consumers before anything else Yavin4 Nov 2012 #91

so true, so sad Carolina Nov 2012 #55

I hear tell that carrying pictures of Chairman Mao can have a deleterious effect on one's sex life. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #67

That's what they say! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #68

LOL indeed I've heard that too! limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #80

I am tired of hearing this same line. lalalu Nov 2012 #69

Not sure where to begin... JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #93

Try again lalalu Nov 2012 #99

Do continue. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #112

Rugged individualists who are proud of attending public schools? lalalu Nov 2012 #113

WHOA Skittles Nov 2012 #101

That is what you don't get and probably never will lalalu Nov 2012 #114

OMG!!! Skittles Nov 2012 #117

You're leaving? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #118

naw - just deciding not to waste any more time Skittles Nov 2012 #121

Bye lalalu Nov 2012 #120

I'm not sure I understand the point of this thread. There does not seem coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #71

It's a perspective thing. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #92

What bad news? Am I being too literal minded? - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #103

Why do you.... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #76

Oh my. You couldn't be more wrong. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #88

So she makes poor choices in every area of her life... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #123

She told me JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #124

Keeps evolving. NCTraveler Nov 2012 #125

I would like to recommend you this David Harvey video. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #82

K&R ChazII Nov 2012 #83

That we are even discussing revolution reveals that it is already occurring. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #87

So I've been told upthread. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #90

I don't want chaos or fighting in the streets ala' Greece, etc. I'm too old and am disabled. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #94

I hadn't gotten that impression from you. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #96

Remember that we've just seen a strike against Walmart. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #115

Yep, you're right about that Julie.. kentuck Nov 2012 #111

It sure seems that way, doesn't it? JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #116

Interesting read. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #122