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sarisataka

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12. I am glad you recognize Hamas is primarily made up of Gazans
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 03:04 PM
Apr 2024

(though of course not all Gazans are Hamas) reading some description one would believe they are aliens that landed in one specific location.

Asymmetrical wars and insurgencies are some of the most difficult to fight and win against. One option is to pound the opponent, and typically the people they represent, over the head until they give up. I cannot recall a case where this was successful. This is what Israel is currently trying.

Another option is a genocidal campaign where they targets give up or are fully eliminated. There have been several successes with this tactic. The Balkan wars, campaigns against American Indians, several African wars all fit this model. They are slightly more successful but at a horrible moral and human cost.

The third option is "hearts and minds". It is often successful but take a long commitment with little visible gain initially. Usually the frustration of the drawn-out effort leads to a change of tactics to the first option, try to beat the opponent into submission. Viet Nam come to mind as an example.

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Two sources at least sarisataka Apr 2024 #1
All that you point out plus, Hamas has 'sponsors' who probably make sure they eat and have ammo Attilatheblond Apr 2024 #3
Prior to the latest phase of this conflict sarisataka Apr 2024 #6
3. Hamas is indistinguishable from Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #7
Hamas are people in Gaza... sarisataka Apr 2024 #8
Hamas is the people of Gaza. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #9
I am glad you recognize Hamas is primarily made up of Gazans sarisataka Apr 2024 #12
A subtle distinction. Igel Apr 2024 #13
After six months it is clear that the community of Gaza, the people of Gaza Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #15
So is your point that the people of Gaza support the eradication of israel? onenote Apr 2024 #16
Do they have anyone else to turn to? I know they have had no elections but Autumn Apr 2024 #17
The point is that a military objective to eliminate Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #18
Nothing but a military solution would ever be accepted by Israel. Autumn Apr 2024 #19
Yes, and what does that mean in this case? Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #26
Nothing changes and the deaths in Gaza will go on. Autumn Apr 2024 #31
Are you arguing that the populace of Gaza IS Hamas, and therefore responsible for Oct 7? Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #20
Sure. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #23
I'd say your argument is all wet. Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #24
Ok, If you read upthread I said 'approximately', obviously not every single individual. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #25
If that's the case.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #27
So keep on killing and starving the people of Gaza until they support your approved political organization? Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #29
Then They Are All Combatants, And None Protected Persons The Magistrate Apr 2024 #28
I'm not having it both ways. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #30
The Hamas leaders live in Qatar Barry Markson Apr 2024 #2
I'm sure they toil all day in the fields... ExciteBike66 Apr 2024 #4
Hamas gets first bid on any food aid. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #5
Maybe netanyahu should be thinking about THAT. Think. Again. Apr 2024 #10
I guess we'll just have to wait until all the civilians are done away with Ping Tung Apr 2024 #11
At this rate it will take a long, long time. Igel Apr 2024 #14
And the Allies killed 125K civilians in Berlin in a bit over 2 weeks. Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #21
Hamas gets first take at the food and water aid agencies bring in Johnny2X2X Apr 2024 #22
Today a Hamas leader threatened to attack the floating pier Mosby Apr 2024 #32
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