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In reply to the discussion: the lies of David W, Corn [View all]hfojvt
(37,573 posts)20. I thought Corn's piece was a disgusting attack on progressives
and by extension on the working people of America.
Politicians like Bush, and now Obama.
Well, is he doing what I said, or isn't he? He keeps claiming he wants to keep the Bush tax cuts "for the middle class" and he apparently, just like Rmoney, defines the middle class as "couples making $250,000 or less".
Back in the primary, there was a difference between Obama and Hillary. Hillary was claiming people making $97,000 a year were middle class, and Obama jumped on her. He said "6% is not the middle class, it's the upper class".
Hmm, $97,000 a year is well below $200,000. Suddenlly, Obama is defining the middle class upwards - just like Hillary.
I call that a betrayal of the highest order.
As for the accursed payroll tax cut. I explained very simply why I think it sucks. It sucks because it gives $15.8 billion in benefits to the top 5% and only $13.6 billion in benefits to the bottom 40%. It gives $52 billion to the TOP 20%.
I call $52 billion for the top and $13.6 billion for the bottom 40% a bad deal, an increase in inequality.
That remains true no matter who voted for it.
And I covered the extension of unemployment benefits. They were extended twice already. I am supposed to believe that the only way they could be extended was also by giving huge tax breaks to the rich?
And extra medicaid payments? Well a good deal, in my eyes, would be more extra medicaid payments for two years and tax cuts for the rich for six months. Flip that around and it does not look nearly as good. $30 billion in extra medicaid payments vs. $621 billion in tax cuts for the top 20%.
Heck of a deal, Brownie. Heck of a deal.
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True, but be ready to be trashed by those who will want you to give him more time, to know that
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#1
They're letters. & Within limits, too much sturm un drang about them is way more about POWER
patrice
Nov 2012
#29
"Checkmate"? Is that equivalent to "Grand Bargain"? Or TPP? We won't have to wait long to find out.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#17
Perhaps that has something to do with where you're standing, perspective. Look around you &
patrice
Nov 2012
#36
How about ignoring the fact that the payroll tax cut idea came from the left? nt
geek tragedy
Nov 2012
#12
Sorry. I thought that when there are bad ideas, "It's all the Republicans' fault."
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#18
Only one Senator engaged in an ACTUAL filibuster during the last four years: Bernie Sanders.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#101
Republicans have been filibustering and obstructing by any and all means possible
NYC Liberal
Nov 2012
#103
Why are you saying that Obama can do no right? Do you need a link to "The List"?
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#106
Actually, Obama had to raise taxes on those under 250k to do what you claim is "nothing".
JoePhilly
Nov 2012
#34
He promised "no new taxes" on those making under 250k? And he kept that promise? Did you notice that
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#49
The words in the Obama Administration's brief speak for themselves and are not RW talking points.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#97
The truth is that the Obama Administration said that the individual mandate is constitutional
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#99
That was a real 'tell'. It invalidates whatever wandering point the OP was trying to make.
Ikonoklast
Nov 2012
#98
LOL, the 1st post in the attempt to suppress liberal voting in the 2014 mid term elections.
FSogol
Nov 2012
#38
They work to defeat themselves & then wonder why we don't trust them. In a word, Fascism, wearing
patrice
Nov 2012
#42
You neglect to mention that UE benefits were extended as part of that deal as well.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#86
I don't think it's possible he could "care less about you than I do". Not even remotely.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#110
Those two Maine Senators lined up with us at great cost to them in their party.
pnwmom
Nov 2012
#114