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2naSalit

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36. For those not paying attention...
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:35 PM
Nov 2012

the drought of 2012 affected over 50% of the US croplands; many livestock producers-mostly beef-sold off the majority of their herds; those who didn't were allowed to graze their cattle on sensitive public lands beyond the normal grazing allotments to provide for their herds' most corn goes to ethanol production and less to the food supply... and that's just what i can recall off the top of my caffeine deprived memory at the moment.

I agree with the OP author, I am in the same boat as she only I'm fighting with the system to keep from losing my ability to rent the shanty I inhabit because I was injured on the job (back in July) and the workers' comp pukes are fucking with me about getting proper diagnosis and maybe someday I can have some kind of actual medical attention to help heal the problem, until then I can't work at all, and I have not only always supported myself but spent several years supporting sisters who were getting divorced with children... back when there was a relatively better economic environment in this country.

Those who can afford the movies and anything outside of basic survival ability just don't get it. And I would go so far as to add that those who don't have a stable income and waste miniscule financial resources on stupid things are conditioned to think that they are not part of the socially acceptable ranks if they don't make a show of their faux ability to have these things... it's how we ended up with so many with untenable credit card debt and medical bankruptcies for example. Another more relative and obvious example would be what everyone saw last Friday at the malls of America.

The food crisis will be felt hard by the end of next spring and there will be a lot of angry, scared people trying to get food. The rich have been working overtime to make this a reality... why? So that they can degrade the once middle class into worker drone slaves who will do whatever it takes to feed themselves and secure some kind of sub-standard housing to survive. And "whatever it takes" is a pretty desperate mind set which will promote further degradation of the social fabric.

Just look at that POS Blankfein now boldly parading about on FuxNews and elsewhere touting his faux intellect trying to convince the pre-conditioned, dumbed down masses that they have to give him and his cronies the rest of what we have, that they haven't already stolen from us, because they need more yachts and to own our public lands so they can sell them off to the highest bidders. He's doing god's work after all... in his own words. Wonder what god that is. The weenie-waver class of bullies is hosing us and we need to change that.

So those of you who want to argue semantics can continue to feed the beast and place roadblocks to anyone trying to reason this set of dire issues in a public forum. When you have no food because there's none at the store, maybe you'll consider what you were saying here when some were trying to work through the mental mire and come up with some possibilities that could grow into solutions that we can all participate in.

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JNelson6563, I think there's a flip side to that question... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #1
Agreed! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #2
Thank you for the compliment! a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #4
When has "pure" socialism ever been tried correctly? libtodeath Nov 2012 #3
What is "pure" socialism? Bradical79 Nov 2012 #5
I wasnt the one using the phrase just copying it libtodeath Nov 2012 #8
Oy... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #6
And capitalisim has been so wonderful for the 99% of us. libtodeath Nov 2012 #9
Capitalism seems to work for the Social Democracies... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #11
Nonsense,you were the one who was trashing an economic system without acknowledging libtodeath Nov 2012 #17
actually... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #40
Show me a capitalist system that has not enriched a few and enslaved the rest libtodeath Nov 2012 #54
enslaved??? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #60
Yes for all practical purposes enslaved libtodeath Nov 2012 #63
playing "it's the same as" is a mug's game a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #78
And you are spreading rw points more then progressive ideals libtodeath Nov 2012 #86
so it's socialism or right winger? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #95
Now who is clutching at strawmen libtodeath Nov 2012 #97
sigh... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #98
Seems an odd statement given your postings totally throwing socialism aside from the start libtodeath Nov 2012 #102
I've yet to meet any socialists that only want to try a limited experiment with only a few people, a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #106
You obviously don't have any idea of what slavery is mythology Nov 2012 #119
Your list appears to be meaningless PETRUS Nov 2012 #31
yet those are nations that self identify as socialist... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #43
Thoughts PETRUS Nov 2012 #72
The One Drop rule was a court decision that allowed a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #84
Yeah, I know. PETRUS Nov 2012 #104
thoughts on your thoughts a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #105
Cool. What are you working on? PETRUS Nov 2012 #107
a few ideas... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #108
Why rafts? PETRUS Nov 2012 #109
A few reasons a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #110
thank you libtodeath Nov 2012 #58
You bet! PETRUS Nov 2012 #81
"pure" socialism would be just as bad as "pure" capitalism. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #33
The Nordic social democracies seem to work... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #46
one MAJOR difference between us and them... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #50
hmmm... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #56
i'm saying that the nordic countries don't have to deal with internal racism... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #62
I'd redirect that a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #77
and those "others" tend to be people of another race/culture... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #79
I don't think European societies are racially homogenous any more! LongTomH Nov 2012 #59
the nordic countries are. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #66
Yet another blame-the-Working-Class thread leftstreet Nov 2012 #7
Whatever. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #10
So you'd rather go to the movies than get a physical? leftstreet Nov 2012 #13
I don't do either of those things. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #20
But your OP was about lazy irresponsible people leftstreet Nov 2012 #22
It was about content people. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #24
Work all that into an OP. Maybe you'll start a revolution leftstreet Nov 2012 #25
What a silly mistake! Thank you! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #30
If there's anyone out there even close to revolution, it's the teabaggers... Silent3 Nov 2012 #12
Good points. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #26
Thank you... 99Forever Nov 2012 #14
cheap shot... a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #15
As am I. 99Forever Nov 2012 #18
You're saying you're cheap? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #48
A question. 99Forever Nov 2012 #61
WARNING L*O*N*G* POST a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #75
Predictable, huh. woo me with science Nov 2012 #16
Aren't you glad... 99Forever Nov 2012 #19
Actually I'm a woman JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #21
Maybe you should work on your own... 99Forever Nov 2012 #47
Most want the same thing. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #70
Isn't what I was saying? 99Forever Nov 2012 #74
I don't believe I offered a plan. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #85
You do realize the French Revolution nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #27
For those not paying attention... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #36
I am the wrong target nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #38
Actually 2naSalit Nov 2012 #42
No problem. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #45
I'd rather see the rich deprived. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #23
You are correct nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #28
Good point! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #53
The revolution is already far along in process. Things are going extremely well. Zorra Nov 2012 #29
I wouldn't stop it. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #34
I kind of didn't think you would. Zorra Nov 2012 #37
That's exactly what I've been doing for years now... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #39
"Effective marketing" AlexSatan Nov 2012 #32
Effective in that JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #35
Thank you for this OP 2naSalit Nov 2012 #41
Thanks for the kind words! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #49
I thought that 2naSalit Nov 2012 #64
Wow! Good luck! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #65
Thanks, 2naSalit Nov 2012 #73
In reality AlexSatan Nov 2012 #100
The Consumer Culture Is The Primary Driver of Income Inequality Much More So Than Tax Cuts Yavin4 Nov 2012 #44
Wish I could rec your post! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #51
Absolutely right Savannahmann Nov 2012 #52
They Also Have Strong Labor Unions and Work Less Hours Than People in Greece!! Yavin4 Nov 2012 #89
Wrong. Profit is the primary driver of $1 an hour labor leftstreet Nov 2012 #57
Disagree. People See Themselves As Consumers before anything else Yavin4 Nov 2012 #91
so true, so sad Carolina Nov 2012 #55
I hear tell that carrying pictures of Chairman Mao can have a deleterious effect on one's sex life. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #67
That's what they say! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #68
LOL indeed I've heard that too! limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #80
I am tired of hearing this same line. lalalu Nov 2012 #69
Not sure where to begin... JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #93
Try again lalalu Nov 2012 #99
Do continue. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #112
Rugged individualists who are proud of attending public schools? lalalu Nov 2012 #113
WHOA Skittles Nov 2012 #101
That is what you don't get and probably never will lalalu Nov 2012 #114
OMG!!! Skittles Nov 2012 #117
You're leaving? a geek named Bob Nov 2012 #118
naw - just deciding not to waste any more time Skittles Nov 2012 #121
Bye lalalu Nov 2012 #120
I'm not sure I understand the point of this thread. There does not seem coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #71
It's a perspective thing. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #92
What bad news? Am I being too literal minded? - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #103
Why do you.... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #76
Oh my. You couldn't be more wrong. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #88
So she makes poor choices in every area of her life... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #123
She told me JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #124
Keeps evolving. NCTraveler Nov 2012 #125
I would like to recommend you this David Harvey video. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #82
K&R ChazII Nov 2012 #83
That we are even discussing revolution reveals that it is already occurring. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #87
So I've been told upthread. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #90
I don't want chaos or fighting in the streets ala' Greece, etc. I'm too old and am disabled. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #94
I hadn't gotten that impression from you. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #96
Remember that we've just seen a strike against Walmart. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #115
Yep, you're right about that Julie.. kentuck Nov 2012 #111
It sure seems that way, doesn't it? JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #116
Interesting read. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #122
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