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betsuni

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55. Biden will win (unless worst case scenario). Yet there are still both sides idiots in 2024. Unbelievable.

Fri Apr 26, 2024, 01:18 PM

Apr 2024

My husband hears the American news I watch and gets worked up, says: What the hell is wrong with America, it's not a normal country, what the hell.

Sigh. It's a long story.

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The idiots who said the Supreme Court doesn't matter in 2016 and 2000, f**K YOU!!! [View all] JohnSJ Apr 2024 OP

👏👏👏Shout it to the skies. Traildogbob Apr 2024 #1

This x 1M FalloutShelter Apr 2024 #2

i believe some said: campaign in Wisconsin doesn't matter Tetrachloride Apr 2024 #3

I remember. Many want to forget that. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2024 #9

Only apologists I see in this thread are right in this mini-thread. W_HAMILTON Apr 2024 #16

Thank you. betsuni Apr 2024 #45

Lets no forget that third party voters gave Trump the nomination...inexusable and Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #46

True But... HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 2024 #57

NO, no buts. The courts were at stake and they knew it...no excuses. UNFORGIVEABlE... no excuse will ever suffice IMHO. Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #58

Mistakes are made in every campaign mcar Apr 2024 #61

She Did Not Lose Because Of 3rd Party Candidates HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 2024 #62

Jill Stein got more votes in MI, WI and PA than Trump's margin of victory mcar Apr 2024 #65

I Would Never Vote For Stein HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 2024 #83

This! mcar Apr 2024 #60

In 2016, Hillary didn't make even 1 general election campaign appearance in Wisconsin. Not one. elocs Apr 2024 #32

I see...so it is not the voters who voted for Stein or even Trump in some case...saw it on JPR, Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #47

The Democratic nominee was too confident ("hubris" was the popular 2016 insult word) and that "gave them permission" betsuni Apr 2024 #63

Yet neither Biden nor Trump are ignoring Wisconsin now nor taking it for granted. elocs Apr 2024 #68

Why would a few more rallies in white rural Wisconsin have made any difference? betsuni Apr 2024 #38

They just want to blame Hillary...because they want to excuse the behavior of those who Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #48

They weren't for anything in 2016, only against an imaginary cartoon villain Hillary. betsuni Apr 2024 #51

I don't think Trump will win in 24. But the idea that 2016 idiots are still at it...is unbelievable. Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #52

Biden will win (unless worst case scenario). Yet there are still both sides idiots in 2024. Unbelievable. betsuni Apr 2024 #55

So True, I hold onto the fact that they have lost every election...it was a year ago when Sarah Palin lost in Alaska. Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #59

hmm. I don't know a single voter who said anything like that in any election. N ot Ever. msfiddlestix Apr 2024 #4

I heard that by some when it was pointed out that the Supreme Court was at stake in 2016 after some anti-Hillary JohnSJ Apr 2024 #5

For the record, that's a higher percentage than Clinton primary voters voting for Obama. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2024 #8

A lot of Bernie supporters were not Democrats, never were. It's wrong to think the Dem party owns the Earth-shine Apr 2024 #66

They proved that in 2000 and 2016, and contributed to THIS supreme court JohnSJ Apr 2024 #69

Bernie hid in his cushy, ivory Washington tower in 2000 and let W steal that election! GoreWon2000 Apr 2024 #70

This is the first time I've heard Bernie being blamed for Bush v Gore. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #72

Yes, those awful Bernie supporters in 2000. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #71

Ask Cornell West, David Sirota, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray, Susan Sarandon, JohnSJ Apr 2024 #75

You are pissing in the wind now. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #76

You are right. I am well past rational conversation, that ended in 2016 when a racist, sexit, bigot won the presidency JohnSJ Apr 2024 #78

Despair is not an option. That's how Jill Stein gets votes. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #80

I am with you now, but unless we win in November I am not so sure. JohnSJ Apr 2024 #81

You will be with me either way come next year. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #82

Bernie Sanders very own campaign staffers did MistakenLamb Apr 2024 #11

Indeed they did DFW Apr 2024 #15

And very vocal about it. Mentioning the SC or the enormous obvious difference between the parties betsuni Apr 2024 #39

Oh dear me. They did and they do, every 4 years. Hekate Apr 2024 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Apr 2024 #35

I have been saying that for years gopiscrap Apr 2024 #6

The Federalist Society Fascists have captured our Supreme Court. magicarpet Apr 2024 #7

Yup, fuck the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation. Initech Apr 2024 #10

"We need to maintain the majority in the Senate in order to..." ? You mean the one-vote majority? Hekate Apr 2024 #21

OK, let's commit to INCREASING..... MyOwnPeace Apr 2024 #29

We need a landslide, but only 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election at a time, iirc Hekate Apr 2024 #31

Well,... 51 votes in the senate will confirm,... magicarpet Apr 2024 #36

51 votes isn't enough. We need a way better majority. Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #53

One might argue they also have a foothold in the DOJ. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #67

All of this is on their heads mcar Apr 2024 #12

The stakes were very clear in 2016. JohnSJ Apr 2024 #13

Crystal mcar Apr 2024 #14

PAID speeches. It was a huge sin (only for Hillary) to be PAID as former First Lady, senator and SoS for speeches. betsuni Apr 2024 #40

Yes. And Trump would bring on "the revolution." Yay! mcar Apr 2024 #42

It's no wonder the revolution people are obsessed with blaming Hillary for not doing more rallies betsuni Apr 2024 #49

Blame, blame, blame, for all the good it will do you. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #73

"Dont threaten me with the Supreme Court!" emulatorloo Apr 2024 #17

The anti-Hillary theme song. oasis Apr 2024 #25

Also earlier. I remember having some pitched battles here over electing Obama... Hekate Apr 2024 #18

I think they consider themselves too noble & righteous to lower themselves to vote for a perceived lesser of 2 evils. elocs Apr 2024 #33

I'm with you. Even after Obama was elected they wouldn't give up the nastiness... Hekate Apr 2024 #34

SCrOTUS is destroying it's own legitamacy pfitz59 Apr 2024 #19

Yes, but they already did that with the Dobbs decision, and the current chaos that is causing JohnSJ Apr 2024 #22

Ignore them? Sorry, it does not work that way. Hekate Apr 2024 #23

All That Matters HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 2024 #24

I hate so called Christians who want to deny women medical care and I despise the Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #50

This is nonsense - "There is no excuse for those who did not back Hillary and yes Obama fully...none." Earth-shine Apr 2024 #74

Too bad. I watched these folks who were very engaged...and I feel they are to blame. I will neverfo Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #77

And your anger will never help to earn their votes ... never ... thus condemning us to more losses. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #79

Maybe time to consider moondust Apr 2024 #26

I second the original poster's emotion. oswaldactedalone Apr 2024 #27

Hillary Clinton called it in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #28

And they still won't admit Democrats aren't the same or worse than Republicans and their whole betsuni Apr 2024 #41

K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Apr 2024 #30

I don't recall anyone or any reports of people doing this. Chakaconcarne Apr 2024 #37

... mcar Apr 2024 #43

I've never seen a panda in real life so therefore they don't exist. betsuni Apr 2024 #44

I remember in 2020 several people on this forum were not that walkingman Apr 2024 #54

to the Googleplex! WhiteTara Apr 2024 #56

K and R. Tell it like it is. oasis Apr 2024 #64