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Earth-shine

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73. Blame, blame, blame, for all the good it will do you.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 03:38 PM
Apr 2024

Hillary's loss is all the fault of people who would never vote for her, who were very clear they would never vote for her.

Go on blame them. It's more productive than trying to understand a simple fact -- many of them were never Democrats. They were willing to vote for Bernie and that's the extent of it. They didn't listen to him when he supported Hillary. He could only lead them to where they wanted to be led.

When voting for Bernie wasn't an option, they stayed home or voted for Stein like they said they would. They knew full well voting for Stein was throwing the vote away. They chose to do anyway because they felt the Democratic party wasn't listening to them, and that it was listening to Goldman/Sachs.

They certainly didn't listen to me, but I heard what they had to say. Some were friends of mine.

My own mother voted for Trump. I had no control over that either. As she gets older, she gets angrier. There's no limit.

The majority of people did vote for Hillary. She lost in the electoral college. But, let's put the blame somewhere else, eh?

👏👏👏Shout it to the skies. Traildogbob Apr 2024 #1
This x 1M FalloutShelter Apr 2024 #2
i believe some said: campaign in Wisconsin doesn't matter Tetrachloride Apr 2024 #3
I remember. Many want to forget that. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2024 #9
Only apologists I see in this thread are right in this mini-thread. W_HAMILTON Apr 2024 #16
Thank you. betsuni Apr 2024 #45
Lets no forget that third party voters gave Trump the nomination...inexusable and Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #46
True But... HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 2024 #57
NO, no buts. The courts were at stake and they knew it...no excuses. UNFORGIVEABlE... no excuse will ever suffice IMHO. Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #58
Mistakes are made in every campaign mcar Apr 2024 #61
She Did Not Lose Because Of 3rd Party Candidates HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 2024 #62
Jill Stein got more votes in MI, WI and PA than Trump's margin of victory mcar Apr 2024 #65
I Would Never Vote For Stein HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 2024 #83
This! mcar Apr 2024 #60
In 2016, Hillary didn't make even 1 general election campaign appearance in Wisconsin. Not one. elocs Apr 2024 #32
I see...so it is not the voters who voted for Stein or even Trump in some case...saw it on JPR, Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #47
The Democratic nominee was too confident ("hubris" was the popular 2016 insult word) and that "gave them permission" betsuni Apr 2024 #63
Yet neither Biden nor Trump are ignoring Wisconsin now nor taking it for granted. elocs Apr 2024 #68
Why would a few more rallies in white rural Wisconsin have made any difference? betsuni Apr 2024 #38
They just want to blame Hillary...because they want to excuse the behavior of those who Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #48
They weren't for anything in 2016, only against an imaginary cartoon villain Hillary. betsuni Apr 2024 #51
I don't think Trump will win in 24. But the idea that 2016 idiots are still at it...is unbelievable. Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #52
Biden will win (unless worst case scenario). Yet there are still both sides idiots in 2024. Unbelievable. betsuni Apr 2024 #55
So True, I hold onto the fact that they have lost every election...it was a year ago when Sarah Palin lost in Alaska. Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #59
hmm. I don't know a single voter who said anything like that in any election. N ot Ever. msfiddlestix Apr 2024 #4
I heard that by some when it was pointed out that the Supreme Court was at stake in 2016 after some anti-Hillary JohnSJ Apr 2024 #5
For the record, that's a higher percentage than Clinton primary voters voting for Obama. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2024 #8
A lot of Bernie supporters were not Democrats, never were. It's wrong to think the Dem party owns the Earth-shine Apr 2024 #66
They proved that in 2000 and 2016, and contributed to THIS supreme court JohnSJ Apr 2024 #69
Bernie hid in his cushy, ivory Washington tower in 2000 and let W steal that election! GoreWon2000 Apr 2024 #70
This is the first time I've heard Bernie being blamed for Bush v Gore. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #72
Yes, those awful Bernie supporters in 2000. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #71
Ask Cornell West, David Sirota, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray, Susan Sarandon, JohnSJ Apr 2024 #75
You are pissing in the wind now. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #76
You are right. I am well past rational conversation, that ended in 2016 when a racist, sexit, bigot won the presidency JohnSJ Apr 2024 #78
Despair is not an option. That's how Jill Stein gets votes. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #80
I am with you now, but unless we win in November I am not so sure. JohnSJ Apr 2024 #81
You will be with me either way come next year. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #82
Bernie Sanders very own campaign staffers did MistakenLamb Apr 2024 #11
Indeed they did DFW Apr 2024 #15
And very vocal about it. Mentioning the SC or the enormous obvious difference between the parties betsuni Apr 2024 #39
Oh dear me. They did and they do, every 4 years. Hekate Apr 2024 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Apr 2024 #35
I have been saying that for years gopiscrap Apr 2024 #6
The Federalist Society Fascists have captured our Supreme Court. magicarpet Apr 2024 #7
Yup, fuck the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation. Initech Apr 2024 #10
"We need to maintain the majority in the Senate in order to..." ? You mean the one-vote majority? Hekate Apr 2024 #21
OK, let's commit to INCREASING..... MyOwnPeace Apr 2024 #29
We need a landslide, but only 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election at a time, iirc Hekate Apr 2024 #31
Well,... 51 votes in the senate will confirm,... magicarpet Apr 2024 #36
51 votes isn't enough. We need a way better majority. Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #53
One might argue they also have a foothold in the DOJ. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #67
All of this is on their heads mcar Apr 2024 #12
The stakes were very clear in 2016. JohnSJ Apr 2024 #13
Crystal mcar Apr 2024 #14
PAID speeches. It was a huge sin (only for Hillary) to be PAID as former First Lady, senator and SoS for speeches. betsuni Apr 2024 #40
Yes. And Trump would bring on "the revolution." Yay! mcar Apr 2024 #42
It's no wonder the revolution people are obsessed with blaming Hillary for not doing more rallies betsuni Apr 2024 #49
Blame, blame, blame, for all the good it will do you. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #73
"Dont threaten me with the Supreme Court!" emulatorloo Apr 2024 #17
The anti-Hillary theme song. oasis Apr 2024 #25
Also earlier. I remember having some pitched battles here over electing Obama... Hekate Apr 2024 #18
I think they consider themselves too noble & righteous to lower themselves to vote for a perceived lesser of 2 evils. elocs Apr 2024 #33
I'm with you. Even after Obama was elected they wouldn't give up the nastiness... Hekate Apr 2024 #34
SCrOTUS is destroying it's own legitamacy pfitz59 Apr 2024 #19
Yes, but they already did that with the Dobbs decision, and the current chaos that is causing JohnSJ Apr 2024 #22
Ignore them? Sorry, it does not work that way. Hekate Apr 2024 #23
All That Matters HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 2024 #24
I hate so called Christians who want to deny women medical care and I despise the Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #50
This is nonsense - "There is no excuse for those who did not back Hillary and yes Obama fully...none." Earth-shine Apr 2024 #74
Too bad. I watched these folks who were very engaged...and I feel they are to blame. I will neverfo Demsrule86 Apr 2024 #77
And your anger will never help to earn their votes ... never ... thus condemning us to more losses. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #79
Maybe time to consider moondust Apr 2024 #26
I second the original poster's emotion. oswaldactedalone Apr 2024 #27
Hillary Clinton called it in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #28
And they still won't admit Democrats aren't the same or worse than Republicans and their whole betsuni Apr 2024 #41
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Apr 2024 #30
I don't recall anyone or any reports of people doing this. Chakaconcarne Apr 2024 #37
... mcar Apr 2024 #43
I've never seen a panda in real life so therefore they don't exist. betsuni Apr 2024 #44
I remember in 2020 several people on this forum were not that walkingman Apr 2024 #54
to the Googleplex! WhiteTara Apr 2024 #56
K and R. Tell it like it is. oasis Apr 2024 #64
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