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JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
21. Let's have a look at that.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:44 PM
Nov 2012
1. Facebook is a communication technology first,

The Internet is a communication technology. Facebook is a corporation that currently manages a portion of the Internet on the server side. The rest of your breathless prose about speed and universality describes the Internet, which already fulfilled these functions long before FB. The question is whether Facebook adds anything to the Internet. FB is one server, one platform, and shapes all content according to a single template, for the sole dedicated purpose of FB Inc. profit. (All other purposes are incidental.) In the rich ecosystem of the Internet, FB is the agribusiness monoculture.

2. What about the marketing?

I suspect you've fallen for it. Your mistake on this point is to think that the pervasiveness of marketing is an argument for it being either good or bad. No actual substance to this argument.

3. What about the silly shit on FB, like people's breakfasts and their stupid whiny breakups?

Indeed, who cares. Very selective view of what's supposedly wrong with FB. What about the IPO fraud? What about the primary business model of FB as a voluntary surveillance platform with user data delivered to buyers?

You are not the user of FB. You are the product delivered to the paying customers. The paying customers are the users.

4. Due to the near-instantaneous, global sharing of thoughts, feelings, images, sounds, and video, Facebook has become, in my own opinion, one of the most democratic tools of debate ever known.

No. It's a parasite on top of the former Internet, already one of the most democratic tools of debate ever known, etc. etc. (continue identical rhapsody).

5. While there may be cause for concern for the handling of certain issues by Facebook, the exponential sharing and assimilation of information through this network is astounding.

This is the "shiny things" gambit. ("While there may be cause for concern - look! Over there! Shiny things!&quot

Yes, we're all very impressed by the size of FB's servers. They must be at least 1/20th of Google's. So totally not the point.

C+ for effort.

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On the Virtues of Facebook [View all] RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 OP
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In the future, history will be divided into pre- and post-facebook. CJCRANE Nov 2012 #2
I agree. Anthropological dream come true in that sense... RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #51
Put me in the anti-Facebook category. I hate the way it's taken over the internet. MotherPetrie Nov 2012 #3
"turns so many of its users into addicts" RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #7
Well, tbf facebook has been much better for me to meet women Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #13
Because being able to shoot down the crazy BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #36
I like facebook Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #41
What makes you think marions ghost Nov 2012 #4
The fact that ten years ago people asked that same question about Myspace? Posteritatis Nov 2012 #43
Don't care if other people love it and use it. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #5
Yes, I agree that is a strange trend, but certainly it is sociological and not RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #8
You don't think FB would promote the idea that non-subscribers TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #12
I think most companies may try to market something of that nature. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #34
It's not "marketing" to lock me out of non-facebook TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #39
If a website only permits comments with a social media account, RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #47
What other social media company has co-opted local news sites? TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #52
I also disagree with that business practice. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #55
Why would you feel "compelled" to defend one of the richest companies on earth? forestpath Nov 2012 #6
I feel compelled, as I mentioned, because I study communication RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #10
"Rational reasons"? As if it's not rational to not use Facebook. Your condescension is noted. forestpath Nov 2012 #14
No, as in it is not irrational to use Facebook. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #15
"leave us alone?" Were you somehow forced to read and respond to the OP? (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #46
I can understand the desire to 'defend' (but not the company) The Straight Story Nov 2012 #53
Rule #1: If it's private, don't put it on Facebook WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #9
I have a cousin who has fallen on hard times and cannot afford a cell phone. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #11
What about email? savalez Nov 2012 #28
Yes, and they are all consolidated on Facebook. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #29
I hear ya. savalez Dec 2012 #63
Splitting hairs just a bit, don't you think? (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #44
Good question. savalez Dec 2012 #64
Rule #1: It's not private. You might as well stay off the Internet. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #33
very good read, thanks. Whisp Nov 2012 #16
Good point. I found DU in 2002, so when facebook came along I didn't need it CJCRANE Nov 2012 #18
I have participated in political arguing with a dozen people RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #25
So, how much is Mark paying you for this? MadHound Nov 2012 #17
Mark doesn't pay. The FB content creators are all volunteers. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #22
I'll reciprocate. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #23
Facebook is a mirror of the mundanity of material life. i am thee modren man Nov 2012 #19
That speaks more about you & your friends than it does FB. You have just ridiculed some patrice Nov 2012 #56
I don't particularly like nor dislike Facebook, much as I neither like nor dislike a hammer... LanternWaste Nov 2012 #20
Let's have a look at that. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #21
Ok, ok... RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #24
Thank you. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #27
From one subgenius to another: yes. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #30
you're adorable. LanternWaste Nov 2012 #32
My extended family and friends used to have hilarious email threads that went on for days. morningglory Nov 2012 #26
Yes, but that is your family moving the conversation to a more public venue. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #31
email does the same spanone Nov 2012 #35
The difference between Facebook & e-mail is pretty obvious though BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #40
I quit FB, and it's been mildly inconvenient. Butterbean Nov 2012 #37
I spend way more time (and that is spent far more enjoyably) on DU coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #38
Sometimes I am on Facebook, sometimes not. Just like a bar or social club. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #48
I honestly believe Facebook was a major tool in countering Citizens United this election. Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #42
This is an excellent point. I agree. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #50
I find the reactions to the site as fascinating as the site itself these days Posteritatis Nov 2012 #45
I remember all the crazed rants here at DU about how stupid Lex Nov 2012 #49
I remember those too. I like the Twitter challenge of being significant & brief. . . . patrice Nov 2012 #59
There was a 2-3 month stretch where people were convinced it was a Republican plot Posteritatis Nov 2012 #60
FB is a good place to discover the power of courage in your own voice because your name is patrice Nov 2012 #54
Yes. Thank you for this great comment. RadiationTherapy Nov 2012 #57
I love my more active FB friends. FB gives me a means that allows the luxury of TIME for a patrice Nov 2012 #58
IMO FB is a tool to be used drmeow Nov 2012 #61
Virtues? Jim Warren Nov 2012 #62
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