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In reply to the discussion: On the Virtues of Facebook [View all]JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)21. Let's have a look at that.
1. Facebook is a communication technology first,
The Internet is a communication technology. Facebook is a corporation that currently manages a portion of the Internet on the server side. The rest of your breathless prose about speed and universality describes the Internet, which already fulfilled these functions long before FB. The question is whether Facebook adds anything to the Internet. FB is one server, one platform, and shapes all content according to a single template, for the sole dedicated purpose of FB Inc. profit. (All other purposes are incidental.) In the rich ecosystem of the Internet, FB is the agribusiness monoculture.
2. What about the marketing?
I suspect you've fallen for it. Your mistake on this point is to think that the pervasiveness of marketing is an argument for it being either good or bad. No actual substance to this argument.
3. What about the silly shit on FB, like people's breakfasts and their stupid whiny breakups?
Indeed, who cares. Very selective view of what's supposedly wrong with FB. What about the IPO fraud? What about the primary business model of FB as a voluntary surveillance platform with user data delivered to buyers?
You are not the user of FB. You are the product delivered to the paying customers. The paying customers are the users.
4. Due to the near-instantaneous, global sharing of thoughts, feelings, images, sounds, and video, Facebook has become, in my own opinion, one of the most democratic tools of debate ever known.
No. It's a parasite on top of the former Internet, already one of the most democratic tools of debate ever known, etc. etc. (continue identical rhapsody).
5. While there may be cause for concern for the handling of certain issues by Facebook, the exponential sharing and assimilation of information through this network is astounding.
This is the "shiny things" gambit. ("While there may be cause for concern - look! Over there! Shiny things!"
Yes, we're all very impressed by the size of FB's servers. They must be at least 1/20th of Google's. So totally not the point.
C+ for effort.
.
The Internet is a communication technology. Facebook is a corporation that currently manages a portion of the Internet on the server side. The rest of your breathless prose about speed and universality describes the Internet, which already fulfilled these functions long before FB. The question is whether Facebook adds anything to the Internet. FB is one server, one platform, and shapes all content according to a single template, for the sole dedicated purpose of FB Inc. profit. (All other purposes are incidental.) In the rich ecosystem of the Internet, FB is the agribusiness monoculture.
2. What about the marketing?
I suspect you've fallen for it. Your mistake on this point is to think that the pervasiveness of marketing is an argument for it being either good or bad. No actual substance to this argument.
3. What about the silly shit on FB, like people's breakfasts and their stupid whiny breakups?
Indeed, who cares. Very selective view of what's supposedly wrong with FB. What about the IPO fraud? What about the primary business model of FB as a voluntary surveillance platform with user data delivered to buyers?
You are not the user of FB. You are the product delivered to the paying customers. The paying customers are the users.
4. Due to the near-instantaneous, global sharing of thoughts, feelings, images, sounds, and video, Facebook has become, in my own opinion, one of the most democratic tools of debate ever known.
No. It's a parasite on top of the former Internet, already one of the most democratic tools of debate ever known, etc. etc. (continue identical rhapsody).
5. While there may be cause for concern for the handling of certain issues by Facebook, the exponential sharing and assimilation of information through this network is astounding.
This is the "shiny things" gambit. ("While there may be cause for concern - look! Over there! Shiny things!"
Yes, we're all very impressed by the size of FB's servers. They must be at least 1/20th of Google's. So totally not the point.
C+ for effort.
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Facebook has allowed me to keep in touch with all my friends from Germany for about 6 years now.
underoath
Nov 2012
#1
Put me in the anti-Facebook category. I hate the way it's taken over the internet.
MotherPetrie
Nov 2012
#3
The fact that ten years ago people asked that same question about Myspace?
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#43
Yes, I agree that is a strange trend, but certainly it is sociological and not
RadiationTherapy
Nov 2012
#8
Why would you feel "compelled" to defend one of the richest companies on earth?
forestpath
Nov 2012
#6
"Rational reasons"? As if it's not rational to not use Facebook. Your condescension is noted.
forestpath
Nov 2012
#14
"leave us alone?" Were you somehow forced to read and respond to the OP? (nt)
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#46
I have a cousin who has fallen on hard times and cannot afford a cell phone.
RadiationTherapy
Nov 2012
#11
That speaks more about you & your friends than it does FB. You have just ridiculed some
patrice
Nov 2012
#56
I don't particularly like nor dislike Facebook, much as I neither like nor dislike a hammer...
LanternWaste
Nov 2012
#20
My extended family and friends used to have hilarious email threads that went on for days.
morningglory
Nov 2012
#26
Yes, but that is your family moving the conversation to a more public venue.
RadiationTherapy
Nov 2012
#31
Sometimes I am on Facebook, sometimes not. Just like a bar or social club.
RadiationTherapy
Nov 2012
#48
I honestly believe Facebook was a major tool in countering Citizens United this election.
Arugula Latte
Nov 2012
#42
I find the reactions to the site as fascinating as the site itself these days
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#45
I remember those too. I like the Twitter challenge of being significant & brief. . . .
patrice
Nov 2012
#59
There was a 2-3 month stretch where people were convinced it was a Republican plot
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#60
FB is a good place to discover the power of courage in your own voice because your name is
patrice
Nov 2012
#54