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In reply to the discussion: On "Bitch" and other Misogynist language [View all]redqueen
(115,186 posts)82. Number 1 on the list.
1. The Brits use it. Some segments of British society are indeed fond of using the word cunt a lot. There are pubs in London where three seconds doesn't go by without someone shouting "yeh feckin' cunt!" at his or her mate. And
that really has nothing to do with its use at an American blog about American politics.
It also, btw, has nothing to do with whether it's intrinsically sexist. There are also bars in America where not three seconds pass without one guy calling another guy a fag. The frequency of its use in specific regional areas doesn't make it not homophobicin those areas, or anywhere else.
Relatedly, the attempt to rip misogynist slurs from their roots to try to redefine them doesn't fly. "I'm using it in the European way" is just a cynical ploy to justify the continued use of misogynistic language that feels good to use. "Asshole" just doesn't have the zing! of "cunt," which is why we get these tortured explanations about how "cunt" isn't being used in the misogynistic way, but in the British or European way, where the word's ubiquity is fallaciously used as evidence that the word has lost all its meaning.
It also, btw, has nothing to do with whether it's intrinsically sexist. There are also bars in America where not three seconds pass without one guy calling another guy a fag. The frequency of its use in specific regional areas doesn't make it not homophobicin those areas, or anywhere else.
Relatedly, the attempt to rip misogynist slurs from their roots to try to redefine them doesn't fly. "I'm using it in the European way" is just a cynical ploy to justify the continued use of misogynistic language that feels good to use. "Asshole" just doesn't have the zing! of "cunt," which is why we get these tortured explanations about how "cunt" isn't being used in the misogynistic way, but in the British or European way, where the word's ubiquity is fallaciously used as evidence that the word has lost all its meaning.
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that is kinda cute. my 15 yr old will appreciate that. i will throw it out there
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#5
I know that if a woman call a guy a dick or asshole, it's no big deal. I'm kind of used to it
brewens
Nov 2012
#6
I disagree on the equality of cunt and asshole not in the same ballpark imo
Arcanetrance
Nov 2012
#19
I don't think everyone who uses the word think about it being used as a term for a vagina.
Arcanetrance
Nov 2012
#25
welcome to DU--and guess what? on this subject, everyone is NOT in agreement, and we do
niyad
Nov 2012
#96
Language and words not only change, they mean different things in different places
Spider Jerusalem
Nov 2012
#60
Yup. I cringe every time I watch Shaun of the Dead with my kids (12 & 14)...
SidDithers
Nov 2012
#72
words matter so much they create who we are by our chosen words to self, who others are,
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#17
No, words evolve in their meaning for *some* people, not for everyone, and certainly not at the same
Lars39
Nov 2012
#42
I find this discussion interesting. So you think that pejorative is in the receiving
rhett o rick
Nov 2012
#129
And also providng real time examples of exactly the kind of excuse-making and rationalization
redqueen
Nov 2012
#48
When several of us in our conservative community produced The Vagina Monlogues
duhneece
Nov 2012
#56
Somewhat related, was on a jury yesterday, and was surprised at the result...
SidDithers
Nov 2012
#75