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bvar22

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33. Thats exactly where I'm at...

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:17 PM

Nov 2012

[font size=4]If THAT is TRUE![/font]
I don't want to believe it,
but so far, nobody has provided any credible, sourced information to disprove it,
not even a [font color=blue]Blue Link[/font].

I was stunned myself when I Googled for information pertaining to the benefits for a "Bronze Plan" on The Exchange
since that will be the one I will be mandated to buy in 2014.
I really believed that Health CARE costs were capped at a percentage of income.
60% of Hospital Costs will be less than useless to me.

I am praying for the post that provides credible contradiction to this information.
That is why I put question mark on the title line.

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The Mandated "Bronze" Policy on The Exchange will only cover 60% of the actual Health Care Cost? [View all] bvar22 Nov 2012 OP

Both premiums and out-of-pocket are capped Recursion Nov 2012 #1

For Bronze coverage, the maximum out-of-pocket is $6,350. eomer Nov 2012 #73

You are wrong Schema Thing Nov 2012 #2

If what you say is true, bvar22 Nov 2012 #5

you could try this link leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #12

I did, bvar22 Nov 2012 #21

There's no simple answer to that because B2G Nov 2012 #22

Well then you should be able to post the pertinent table or outline... bvar22 Nov 2012 #25

I've seen no tables, but there's this B2G Nov 2012 #31

Thats premium assistance, and separate from co-pays & deductibles NoOneMan Nov 2012 #41

The Kaiser subsidy calculator is based on the Silver Plan. flpoljunkie Nov 2012 #62

Bvar's quote is very similar to the Kaiser Family Foundation release on this riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #14

Someone should of told the people writing this law that poor people exist NoOneMan Nov 2012 #16

Even "Platinum" leaves room for MAJOR EXPENSES, at 10%! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #3

No, it doesn't. Schema Thing Nov 2012 #26

Have you ever had insurance? There's a lot of confusion about how health insurance works. Politicub Nov 2012 #68

And that there is the swindle NoOneMan Nov 2012 #4

it will shake out to benefit the insurance companies who wrote this legislation lol nt msongs Nov 2012 #7

Insurance is like that. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #6

How is that any better for those barely hangin on? bvar22 Nov 2012 #8

Maybe theyll get a bigger rebate check when they are dead NoOneMan Nov 2012 #10

Read better. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #17

Read better? bvar22 Nov 2012 #28

They are coerced into"'choosing" the only plan they can afford. eridani Nov 2012 #66

A poor person with subsidized coverage is better able to afford primary care. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #75

This is nonsense--the deductible for bronze coverage is far too high eridani Nov 2012 #133

this is the u.s.- we have notoriously bad infrastructure... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #9

Does that road go over the bridge to nowhere? NoOneMan Nov 2012 #15

LOL n/t Oilwellian Nov 2012 #134

Good post! davekriss Nov 2012 #50

What a ProSense Nov 2012 #11

You aren't refuting the OP. morningfog Nov 2012 #89

Read this, It ain't gonna be cheap. B2G Nov 2012 #13

Ok ProSense. You can make everything crystal clear... bvar22 Nov 2012 #18

Sort it out yourself. You're smart enough ProSense Nov 2012 #19

Premiums are capped, and also subsudized depending on need. bvar22 Nov 2012 #23

Wow! Its a first - usually you are all about educating us about Obama's positions and policies riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #24

"Since you seemed very plugged in to this Admin, I'd be grateful for help in sorting this out. " ProSense Nov 2012 #29

Tried. Can't find it. So you won't help us out here with a table or graph? riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #32

There is no table. None exists. B2G Nov 2012 #34

Well ProSense says I just have to "try harder" to find it. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #37

Try harder. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #35

Or you could just provide it? Why are you being so coy about THIS? riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #40

I'm still ProSense Nov 2012 #45

Gee, you were all over THIS thread and many others today with LOTS of helpful links riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #48

Celebrating a political touchdown is more important than understanding it NoOneMan Nov 2012 #57

The pom-poms are at the cleaners. Safetykitten Nov 2012 #88

Yeah, the ProSense Nov 2012 #101

THey don't know where the information is or it doesn't exist. I have never morningfog Nov 2012 #81

"I have never seen ProSense not jump at the chance to cite a claim." ProSense Nov 2012 #100

I found the answer, from a link you provided: morningfog Nov 2012 #103

I provided no link, and ProSense Nov 2012 #104

You provided a link upthread morningfog Nov 2012 #106

How is it nonsense? morningfog Nov 2012 #109

"relatively low, $700 per month." Good lord. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #36

That's about a third of what my parents pay democrattotheend Nov 2012 #80

And it's seventeen times what I pay. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #96

We're fucked n/t leftstreet Nov 2012 #20

Double fucked, six ways to Sunday if Autumn Nov 2012 #27

"if that's true." ProSense Nov 2012 #30

You know, bvar22 Nov 2012 #39

+ 100000000000000000 B2G Nov 2012 #43

You're right ProSense Nov 2012 #47

LOL bahrbearian Nov 2012 #49

That would be such a compelling rebuttal rudycantfail Nov 2012 #72

+ 10000000000 CrawlingChaos Nov 2012 #116

Some words are funny aren't they Autumn Nov 2012 #58

Thats exactly where I'm at... bvar22 Nov 2012 #33

There will be ProSense Nov 2012 #38

...so you ARE unable to post ANY credible and sourced information... bvar22 Nov 2012 #42

Unwilling. ProSense Nov 2012 #46

Wow...so you're proving bvar is correct leftstreet Nov 2012 #51

Very interesting. morningfog Nov 2012 #82

Yep. 99Forever Nov 2012 #53

"The denial is strong in that one." ProSense Nov 2012 #54

Working Class people, bvar22 Nov 2012 #61

How utterly ProSense Nov 2012 #70

Then educate us. 99Forever Nov 2012 #64

"Educate us"? ProSense Nov 2012 #71

Reminds me of an especially.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #79

Believe it! ToxMarz Nov 2012 #65

There will undoubtedly be "gap" coverage plans that will spring up. SoCalDem Nov 2012 #44

Here's an apparently thorough exploration from U.S. News and World Report Small Accumulates Nov 2012 #52

Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #55

Thanks! n/t Small Accumulates Nov 2012 #56

This may be of some assistance The Straight Story Nov 2012 #59

Reccing not only for critical info about the ongoing screwing of the masses through faux "reform," woo me with science Nov 2012 #60

Agree Safetykitten Nov 2012 #86

nailed green for victory Nov 2012 #93

Mmm, Eddie. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #94

Some of what I have been reading (see earlier post ^^^ above) The Straight Story Nov 2012 #63

Because insurance holders will take advantage of vastly discounted rates Politicub Nov 2012 #67

And you won't pay a dime for preventative care. America is going to become Politicub Nov 2012 #69

Considering my monthly premium would be about $350 (after the tax credit)... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #83

I'm not sure if you have access to care today, but this law will Politicub Nov 2012 #107

Access to "insurance" and access to "health care" are... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #108

To paraphrase Dolly Parton: Do climb off your cross Politicub Nov 2012 #110

Wow, you told me. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #111

We all want universal healthcare at the end of the day Politicub Nov 2012 #114

Wow. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #129

Enjoy the cider! Politicub Nov 2012 #130

Bronze 1 & 2 single coverage deductibles = $4,375 - $3,475 WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #74

^ Important Post ^ Skip Intro Nov 2012 #77

Yeah, I just played around with the calculator. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #78

Oh dear, the truthiness is starting to come out! Safetykitten Nov 2012 #85

It's a big fucking gamble... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #87

People are expendable. See other thread on over age 50 unemployable myth. Safetykitten Nov 2012 #90

That about sums it up. woo me with science Nov 2012 #97

And Republican-controlled North Carolina wants to reduce unemployment benefits... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #99

Have we had enough yet, America? nt woo me with science Nov 2012 #91

What? You mean the magic beans aren't really magic? nt Skip Intro Nov 2012 #76

I hate all this stuff there should just be one awesome health care for all limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #84

We are seeing the fruits of this nightmare right now. Safetykitten Nov 2012 #92

It is what it is... davidn3600 Nov 2012 #95

Good Point there...and the confusion will take time to sort out so we may KoKo Nov 2012 #98

IF there are still significant numbers of medical bankruptcies kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #102

maybe this site will help mercuryblues Nov 2012 #105

That covers "Premiums" paid to the Insurance Companies for the mandated policies on The Exchange. bvar22 Nov 2012 #112

you're right mercuryblues Nov 2012 #115

That won't make any difference to those barely hanging on. bvar22 Nov 2012 #117

Again, you're right mercuryblues Nov 2012 #127

I don't see how anyone can be happy for people who can't afford decent insurance OneTenthofOnePercent Nov 2012 #113

Out-of-pocket caps will help put the brakes on higher health plan costs ProSense Nov 2012 #118

If this information is correct, bvar22 Nov 2012 #119

It's easy to find, and ProSense Nov 2012 #120

If it is so easy to find, bvar22 Nov 2012 #121

Oh, it was ProSense Nov 2012 #122

That only applies to Exchange offerings leftstreet Nov 2012 #123

Know the law: ProSense Nov 2012 #124

...and where are the fed cost caps? leftstreet Nov 2012 #125

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #126

What If... stuckinodi Nov 2012 #128

Unfortunately the ACA was written assuming you'd be covered by Medicaid. If a state doesn't opt in PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #131

Gee, if only someone had, what do you call it, predicted this way back then. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #132

this health care plan is such a hodge-podge, no doubt because of horse-dealing in its passage. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #135