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Zorra

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120. That's interesting. And yet, yesterday in GD, we had this actual TITLE of an OP

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:11 PM

Nov 2012

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1882694

Did you see that post? Oh, yeh, I suppose so; here's where you posted in that thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1882761

So you apparently believe that the word Mother*****r is appropriate for GD, in the title of a thread in GD, which made it to the Homepage of GD. Did you alert on that post, or any of the many posts containing the word motherf***r in their subject lines, or did you think it that that word, and the myriad of other colorful words in that thread, were perfectly appropriate for GD?

But you voted to hide an expository graphic that debunks the excuses of misogynists for the use of misogynistic language, posted by a woman who was trying to make a perfect point, and used the the explanation that her post was inappropriate for GD?!?

Why? What is your reasoning here?

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On "Bitch" and other Misogynist language [View all] ismnotwasm Nov 2012 OP

k and r--and counting. . . niyad Nov 2012 #1

I recommend people all start using car parts... snooper2 Nov 2012 #2

that is kinda cute. my 15 yr old will appreciate that. i will throw it out there seabeyond Nov 2012 #5

Why don't you go bleed your brakes, tough guy? Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #7

keep talking like that I'll set your timing snooper2 Nov 2012 #9

Oh! Another comment from the Turn Signal Not Working gallery! Kaleva Nov 2012 #13

They blow their gaskets so darned easy around here. n/t Whisp Nov 2012 #108

You're a fouled plug. aikoaiko Nov 2012 #11

'You have the logic of of a Mazda' ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #12

Show me your volvo Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #39

I'll show you my volvo if you show me your prius n/t Tsiyu Nov 2012 #51

You know, its a darned shame that many people object to the word... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #86

Alright, that's pretty awesome... SidDithers Nov 2012 #69

Keep it up and I'll shove my banana in your tailpipe. Son of Gob Nov 2012 #80

Kiss my driveshaft! backscatter712 Nov 2012 #88

Seriously!?! I'm the first one to use "dipstick"!!!?? AlexSatan Nov 2012 #103

nah, we used that as an insult in my neighborhood in gradeschool. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #126

Love it! AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #112

I'll change your oil Aerows Nov 2012 #113

Our recent favorite: Calling people J-holes. TalkingDog Nov 2012 #119

Note to word police: hobbit709 Nov 2012 #3

Were you contemplating banning them? ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #16

I believe in total free speech. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #18

Perhaps you misread the post. It said nothing about banning. redqueen Nov 2012 #21

My comment was aimed at the word police. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #23

This thread is about hate speech. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #24

+1000. n/t pnwmom Nov 2012 #64

So you don't want to ban hate speech AlexSatan Nov 2012 #104

+10 RC Nov 2012 #59

So you believe in the right to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater? Gormy Cuss Nov 2012 #118

As I said "Be prepared to face the consequences" hobbit709 Nov 2012 #127

Jail time's a good consequence, as is social shunning. n/t Gormy Cuss Nov 2012 #128

Note to you: it doesn't fucking matter, Zippy. i am thee modren man Nov 2012 #46

Does that apply to the n- word, too? But, as it happens, pnwmom Nov 2012 #63

Word Police to the left, Dramatic Labels to the right... LanternWaste Nov 2012 #71

Goddam word wars. Iggo Nov 2012 #4

I know that if a woman call a guy a dick or asshole, it's no big deal. I'm kind of used to it brewens Nov 2012 #6

They are still sexist words TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #28

Related: 16 Days of Activism Against Gender Violence 2012 redqueen Nov 2012 #8

K&R for the OP, and for your post as well. Zorra Nov 2012 #27

Thank you, and yes, I do. redqueen Nov 2012 #33

Does it matter who is using it and how it is being used? FrodosPet Nov 2012 #94

Did you read the OP? That is No. 2 on the list. redqueen Nov 2012 #95

Language and words change. Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #10

If someone wasn't aware that it is a misogynist term gollygee Nov 2012 #14

I disagree on the equality of cunt and asshole not in the same ballpark imo Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #19

No, you not being aware of its meaning doesn't mean its meaning has changed gollygee Nov 2012 #22

I don't think everyone who uses the word think about it being used as a term for a vagina. Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #25

It makes no difference. redqueen Nov 2012 #30

I agree with you if has been fun discussing this with you. Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #32

welcome to DU--and guess what? on this subject, everyone is NOT in agreement, and we do niyad Nov 2012 #96

What does "not tolerate" them include AlexSatan Nov 2012 #105

Very well said. I hope people read the post, redqueen Nov 2012 #20

I pretty much never hear asshole or dick used to insult a woman, just men TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #35

Asshole isn't gender-specific cyberswede Nov 2012 #47

I know that it's not gender specific per se TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #52

I use it with absolutely no regard to gender (nt) AlexSatan Nov 2012 #106

And the time may actually come when sexist insults are part and parcel LanternWaste Nov 2012 #77

Opinions are like assholes . . . gollygee Nov 2012 #85

When women are saying the word is unacceptable then it is!... Little Star Nov 2012 #34

Which women? mythology Nov 2012 #123

This subject is not about any one woman. It is a societal problem.... Little Star Nov 2012 #124

Language and words not only change, they mean different things in different places Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #60

Yup. I cringe every time I watch Shaun of the Dead with my kids (12 & 14)... SidDithers Nov 2012 #72

Number 1 on the list. redqueen Nov 2012 #82

The worst and most illogical argument in language 'wars' ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #15

words matter so much they create who we are by our chosen words to self, who others are, seabeyond Nov 2012 #17

Worrying about words: First world problems Pacafishmate Nov 2012 #26

You think ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #41

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #81

Word usage affects how people see and treat women worldwide, and yes even those Lars39 Nov 2012 #84

He's a crusty pizza pie. n/t JimDandy Dec 2012 #136

Two points gollygee Nov 2012 #87

where the article lost me is when they talked about permission quinnox Nov 2012 #29

I am going to copy part of a post I made earlier because it fits here.. Little Star Nov 2012 #31

But, the thing is the f word was what was yelled Sissyk Nov 2012 #38

Sissyk, Little Star Nov 2012 #74

Thank you, Little Star! Sissyk Nov 2012 #91

Context includes rrneck Nov 2012 #36

Words evolve in their meaning. Whovian Nov 2012 #37

No, words evolve in their meaning for *some* people, not for everyone, and certainly not at the same Lars39 Nov 2012 #42

Really? ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #45

"Bitchin' wave, dude." off the top of my head. Whovian Nov 2012 #50

"Bitchin'" is not pejorative. redqueen Nov 2012 #54

SEZ YOU! Perjorative is in the eye of the beholder. Whovian Nov 2012 #58

I find this discussion interesting. So you think that pejorative is in the receiving rhett o rick Nov 2012 #129

I don't find it different at all and don't understand why anyone does TorchTheWitch Nov 2012 #133

"Bitch" ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #57

can we agree and disagree? Whovian Nov 2012 #66

We can ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #73

I feel we also need to realise the different local and economic cultures Whovian Nov 2012 #92

That is also a very valid point ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #116

I wonder how many people are even deigning to read the damn post. redqueen Nov 2012 #40

Very few ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #44

And also providng real time examples of exactly the kind of excuse-making and rationalization redqueen Nov 2012 #48

I read the post and will read it again at least once more. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author opiate69 Nov 2012 #53

But but but FREEEEEEEEEEEE SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH1!1!!!! MadrasT Nov 2012 #61

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #43

Oh, that's good! redqueen Nov 2012 #49

OMG, I can't believe this got hidden. Whovian Nov 2012 #99

Ha, I am surprised it took so long. redqueen Nov 2012 #100

Sorry. I juried this one, and was among the 5 members to hide it. Panasonic Nov 2012 #109

You think it was a good alert, you voted to hide it, so why apologize? nt redqueen Nov 2012 #115

That's interesting. And yet, yesterday in GD, we had this actual TITLE of an OP Zorra Nov 2012 #120

Hm. Panasonic Nov 2012 #122

"Misogyny is ALWAYS going to be a problem here in DU" Zorra Nov 2012 #130

Didn't see T-1 yet Kalidurga Nov 2012 #55

This rocks. n/t MadrasT Nov 2012 #62

Bingo! Stole it for future use, thanks. nt Zorra Nov 2012 #65

My new wallpaper ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #67

Book Marking. Little Star Nov 2012 #76

Ha! gollygee Nov 2012 #78

OMG! That post was hidden! One of the most perfect validations of a DU OP ever! Zorra Nov 2012 #97

I'm surprised it took so long. I would LOVE to know who alerted. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #98

I'd love to see the jury results too n/t gollygee Nov 2012 #101

See post #109 for jury results Panasonic Nov 2012 #110

I saw. Thanks for posting! n/t gollygee Nov 2012 #111

When several of us in our conservative community produced The Vagina Monlogues duhneece Nov 2012 #56

Agree ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #68

yes. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #70

Somewhat related, was on a jury yesterday, and was surprised at the result... SidDithers Nov 2012 #75

I am not the least bit surprised. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #79

Are "dick" and "prick" necessarily sexist insults as well? (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2012 #83

There are two ways of looking at this. gollygee Nov 2012 #89

I don't think "context is everthing" lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #90

linguistic realities sigmasix Nov 2012 #93

Wow ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #114

Not every man has been inculcated since birth. Your last line. lonestarnot Nov 2012 #125

Great post. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #132

Looks like this thread escaped from the Meta zoo. Quantess Nov 2012 #102

. snagglepuss Nov 2012 #107

Well, I go by the old sticks and stones rule Jersey Devil Nov 2012 #121

a loss for words... notgoinback Nov 2012 #131

along the same lines is this intersting blog in ms niyad Nov 2012 #134

This is why I agree with the OP re: context. redqueen Nov 2012 #135

Just thought this could use a kick. redqueen May 2014 #137