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In reply to the discussion: Here Comes The Polls [View all]BumRushDaShow
(173,933 posts)32. And the many polls that were way off are discarded by your "own eyes"
Many many of them.
It's to the point where the pundits keep wanting women to just "give up" and forget about Roe and are furiously trying to come up with "polls" and other events (campus "protests" ) as a bludgeon that is somehow expected to be or will be "more important".
Had the Democrats lost Georgia and Nevada in 2022, two states they won by a narrow margin, they would have lost the senate.
The "polls" NEVER had Biden picking up GA as a state, let alone 2 Democratic Senators in a state that has a trifecta government.
The difference is TURNOUT and not "polls".
Even Biden's team continues to say this race will be close.
EVERY candidate is told to say that. They ALL have their own "internal polling" that they keep close to the vest.
But just going on results from 2020 and 2022, which were extremely close
They WEREN'T "extremely close". The 2020 "narrative" has people IGNORE what happened in MI, which went from 45 having a 11,000 vote difference (which is "extremely close" ) between himself and Clinton in 2016, to Biden having a 154,000 vote difference between himself and 45 in 2020, which is not "extremely close".
Not ONE person on DU has called any of these elections a "romp". But suggesting that this is the prevailing thought is a tactic to carefully continue to push the propaganda.
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Well she has to say that. I believe that it will be at least a 5% spread + Dems all the way.
flying_wahini
May 2024
#2
I found this on Google in about a minute. There were other articles as well. This means
Demsrule86
May 2024
#53
Kennedy is not even going to make 10...he is unimportant. oops I meant RFK JR...not this Kennedy
Demsrule86
May 2024
#23
Polls are a snapshot of the current landscape - but no, they're not meaningless.
In Too Deep
May 2024
#12
They only indicate the sentiment of the ones who were invested enough to respond to the pollsters
BumRushDaShow
May 2024
#17
Polls are not the same as the narratives that SOME people spin around them, and are NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE to GOTV
Silent3
May 2024
#58
"You cannot disconnect the two because they are inextricably linked"? Yes, I can, using this tool called a "brain".
Silent3
May 2024
#65
Nope, I'm not "an employee of RCP or 538 or any other aggregator site", nor do I see the relevance of that
Silent3
May 2024
#73
Nope, I'm not "an employee of RCP or 538 or any other aggregator site", nor do I see the relevance of that
BumRushDaShow
May 2024
#74
You apparently have your own agenda you want to rant about, not the phrase "polls are meaningless"
Silent3
May 2024
#75
"The fact that you even thought that I ever said that you did is perhaps telling?"
Silent3
May 2024
#87
And yet you literally said: "The "polls" NEVER had Biden picking up GA as a state"
In Too Deep
May 2024
#42
The "narrative" that took on a life of its own claimed such based on their use or misuse of "polls"
BumRushDaShow
May 2024
#91
The "narratives" that were generated from "the polls" - notably in their maps - didn't show GA as "blue"
BumRushDaShow
May 2024
#95
"Polls" (plural) as reflected in the aggregate averages that had most pundits leaving GA as "tossup"
BumRushDaShow
May 2024
#98
You ignored my entire argument about "narratives" and instead have framed it with your own fixation.
BumRushDaShow
May 2024
#104
You cherry-pick out of ALL the posts that I did talking about "narratives" and "polls" in order to obfuscate the point
BumRushDaShow
May 2024
#108
Why do you want to think that? Recent elections have been very much in our favor...
Demsrule86
May 2024
#55
"They only indicate the sentiment of the ones who were invested enough to respond to the pollsters"
Silent3
May 2024
#34
This election is nothing like any other election in our lifetime which is why most of the polls are wrong.
Demsrule86
May 2024
#24
2022 resulted in Democrats RETAKING the PA state House after a dozen years
BumRushDaShow
May 2024
#40
And I will reiterate: 2020 was close. 2022 was close. I see no reason to believe 2024 won't be close.
In Too Deep
May 2024
#63
You're a smart person. If you aren't clear on how those elections turned out, you can Google the results.
In Too Deep
May 2024
#90
I am promoting MY opinion. I think the election will be close. Just as it was close four years ago.
In Too Deep
May 2024
#93
Yeah, I wonder about this so called poll stats, and they all seem to be off, by some indeterminate factor, which
SWBTATTReg
May 2024
#31
The ONLY polls that matter are battleground state polls. Thats where the race will be won or lost.
oldsoftie
May 2024
#76
There are many polls. Pick the one you like and swear by it. Swear at the others.
keithbvadu2
May 2024
#82