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In reply to the discussion: Anatomy of a Moral Panic: The repressive machine currently arrayed against campus protests follows a familiar pattern. [View all]AloeVera
(4,271 posts)96. Theoretically, yes. But the U.S. has power and Israel is militarily dependent.
Let's put aside for a minute American domestic politics, which are a huge part of any equation for a president, for sure. But if you put that aside, suspend that for a minute, yes, the president of the United States can make a call, and in pretty short order, I think the Israelis would follow through if, in fact, he conditions aid to Israel. There is no question that even in the - certainly in the short term, that Israel is highly dependent on the United States. This was clear in this war. Israel has the top cutting-edge technology that it needs to have an edge over all its opponents, enemies in the Middle East, thanks to the United States, but more importantly, in the United Nations, the United States obviously protects Israel against actions that could be consequential, especially in the Security Council, where the U.S. has been vetoing multiple resolutions, even cease-fire resolutions.
So in this particular case, though, during the war, just keep in mind the following - number one, even despite the fact that Israel has the most powerful military in the Middle East, it has needed immediate supplies from the U.S., you know, so much so that the State Department had to bypass congressional approval to get there. And the U.S. dispatched, you know, aircraft carriers in the region to make sure that other parties don't enter the fight in a way that would make it impossible for the Israelis to fight on multiple fronts. So there's no question that the U.S. wields enormous power, if it really decided to, in fact, exercise that power.
MARTÍNEZ: How much support does Israel need from the United States to have their military function? Could the war continue if aid from the U.S. was cut off?
TELHAMI: Oh, no question, it can't - not on the same - in the same way, in the same scale. Again, there are two indicators of that. The one indicator is the need for even munitions in the middle of the war to carry out the certain operations the Israelis were carrying out, the need for American protection with the Navy to prevent expansion of the war where Israel could fight multiple fronts and the need to prevent certain U.N. resolutions that would tie Israel's hands further. So all of these obviously indicate that Israel would suffer dramatically and its military options would be more limited if, in fact, the U.S. stopped support. But MARTÍNEZ: How much support does Israel need from the United States to have their military function? Could the war continue if aid from the U.S. was cut off?
TELHAMI: Oh, no question, it can't - not on the same - in the same way, in the same scale. Again, there are two indicators of that. The one indicator is the need for even munitions in the middle of the war to carry out the certain operations the Israelis were carrying out, the need for American protection with the Navy to prevent expansion of the war where Israel could fight multiple fronts and the need to prevent certain U.N. resolutions that would tie Israel's hands further. So all of these obviously indicate that Israel would suffer dramatically and its military options would be more limited if, in fact, the U.S. stopped support. But theoretically, you know, Israel is a strong country militarily, has its own military industry, has a very well-trained military and certainly could fight, but not on the same scale, not in the same way, not with the same objectives., you know, Israel is a strong country militarily, has its own military industry, has a very well-trained military and certainly could fight, but not on the same scale, not in the same way, not with the same objectives.
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Anatomy of a Moral Panic: The repressive machine currently arrayed against campus protests follows a familiar pattern. [View all]
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2024
OP
Bolsters my argument that Israel couldn't continue the war, at least at the same scale.
AloeVera
May 2024
#92
Theoretically, yes. But the U.S. has power and Israel is militarily dependent.
AloeVera
May 2024
#96
"Israel is a strong country militarily, has its own military industry, has a very well-trained military"
shrike3
May 2024
#100
You were the one who said a smaller war would be better. Less people killed, and all.
shrike3
May 2024
#107
And if every ounce of aid is withdrawn and the war continues, who will you blame then?
shrike3
May 2024
#76
If anybody out there has a magic wand, I suggest they send it to the White House forthwith.
shrike3
May 2024
#95
I don't agree. The protests help both Hamas and Netanyahu. They do no good. This
Demsrule86
May 2024
#44
I am prevented by the DU terms of use from answering your accusation directly.
Beastly Boy
May 2024
#19
I m sufficiently educated on the subject to question your understanding of it.
Beastly Boy
May 2024
#38
I am not supporting genocide, and I am not at all certain you understand the meaning of the word.
Beastly Boy
May 2024
#66
Some behavior towards Jewish students by those protesting GAZA is clearly antisemitic.
Demsrule86
May 2024
#25
Interestingly, this theory illustrates the nature of antisemitism in its current iteration.
Beastly Boy
May 2024
#11
Agreed, and it's further proof that the students themselves aren't initiating the trouble
FakeNoose
May 2024
#26
Thanks for posting. The ICC should be free to prosecute war crimes against any perpetrators.
Ping Tung
May 2024
#42
I feel that people don't really understand or accept how bad anti-semitism is
ismnotwasm
May 2024
#40
I am saying that it is NOT antisemitic to believe that those who support
DemocraticPatriot
May 2024
#111