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Pototan

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Sun May 5, 2024, 07:43 AM May 2024

The case for Democrats to vote against a motion to vacate [View all]

And let's be clear. To vote against a motion to vacate is not the same thing as a vote for Johnson to be Speaker. That may be the end result, but voting no on the motion to vacate is a separate matter.

The motion to vacate, brought by the most radical of MAGA cultists in the U.S. House of Representatives is retribution against Mike Johnson for compromising with the Democrats and allowing a vote on bills to fund our allies in Ukraine, Israel and Tiwan. To vote with Marjorie Taylor Greene would send a horrible message in an attempt to find any compromise or consensus in the House. It's not that Johnson needs Democrats to save him, it's that MTG and other extreme MAGAts need Democrats to sink him. Democrats will decide, one way or another, on this issue. And this vote against a motion to vacate is truly a lesser of two evils (I usually hate this phrase, but in this case, it's fitting. Both sides are a different degree of evil). It is a binary choice. And I think the choice is clear. MTG is more evil than Mike Johnson.

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It's even easier bottomofthehill May 2024 #1
You're correct Pototan May 2024 #4
I think... Mike Nelson May 2024 #2
I've been reading that Dems (generally) believe that Johnson negotiates and works with Dems in good faith Texin May 2024 #15
Hakeem Jeffries has said he would back the speaker. Demsrule86 May 2024 #17
And the country and the world does not need this level of disruption now. He would just be replaced by another vile... dutch777 May 2024 #3
One more vile, actually. marble falls May 2024 #6
The MAGAts will make fools of themselves simply by making the motion to vacate. lastlib May 2024 #13
That deal is already on the table. Johnson gets it. McCarthy had the same one and then he allowed the ... marble falls May 2024 #5
So far, Johnson has consulted God and God helped him make a good decision regarding Ukraine. 3Hotdogs May 2024 #7
MAGAts don't differentiate between the two Zambero May 2024 #9
MTG is just following her orders from multigraincracker May 2024 #8
She would cede BOTH Georgias in a heartbeat Zambero May 2024 #10
Has this level of discord ever existed before in Congress? Maybe before the Civil War started? NoMoreRepugs May 2024 #11
Reducing the influence of MTG no_hypocrisy May 2024 #12
If MAGAt Mike hasn't lied to Dems, as Kremlin Kevin did, then no good reason to vote to vacate. Hermit-The-Prog May 2024 #14
I don't foresee either being successful. Qutzupalotl May 2024 #16
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