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In reply to the discussion: The Mandated "Bronze" Policy on The Exchange will only cover 60% of the actual Health Care Cost? [View all]WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)74. Bronze 1 & 2 single coverage deductibles = $4,375 - $3,475
Single Coverage (Deductibles and out-of-pocket limits would be double these amounts for families)
Tier Actuarial Value Deductible Patient Coinsurance Out-of-Pocket Cost-sharing Limit
Bronze 1 60% $4,375 20% $6,350
Bronze 2 60% $3,475 40% $6,350
Silver 1 70% $2,050 20%      $6,350
Silver 2 70% $650 40%     $6,350
Actuarial value = the percentage of covered heath care costs expected to be paid by the plan for a broad population.
Non-group and small group markets must have an actuarial value of:
-- 60 percent (bronze plans)
-- 70 percent (silver plans)
-- 80 percent (gold plans)
-- 90 percent (platinum plans)
"A bronze plan on average would pay for 60 percent of the costs for covered benefits and enrollees on average would pay the remaining 40 percent through cost-sharing such as deductibles, copayments and coinsurance.
Silver plans are likely to be the most common level of coverage because premium tax credits are based on silver plan premiums and only people enrolled in silver plans will be eligible for cost-sharing subsidies.
This means that for most services covered by the plan under these designs, the patient would pay all of the cost until the deductible is reached, and either 20 percent or 40 percent (depending on the option) of any additional costs until total patient cost-sharing reaches the out-of-pocket limit.
However, the minimum coverage people will be required to buy starting in 2014 will have much higher cost-sharing than typical employer-based coverage and than the average purchased now in the non-group market. With standard 20 percent coinsurance, a bronze plan would have an estimated deductible of $4,375 for a single individual and double that for a family. This compares with an average single deductible of $2,498 in 2010 in the non-group market and an average of $675 in employer-sponsored PPO plans with deductibles in 2011. Deductibles in employer plans paired with tax-preferred savings accounts averaged $1,908 in 2011.
People will have the option of buying more generous coverage than the minimum required, and lower-income enrollees will be eligible for cost-sharing subsidies that decrease their out-of-pocket costs. But, some may still find themselves with insurance that requires substantial cost-sharing. Policymakers will face the challenge over time of finding the right balance between the minimum level of insurance people should be required to have and providing an appropriate level of protection."
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8303.pdf
.........
Clear as mud. And none of the above even factors in the cost of buying the insurance. LOL
Tier Actuarial Value Deductible Patient Coinsurance Out-of-Pocket Cost-sharing Limit
Bronze 1 60% $4,375 20% $6,350
Bronze 2 60% $3,475 40% $6,350
Silver 1 70% $2,050 20%      $6,350
Silver 2 70% $650 40%     $6,350
Actuarial value = the percentage of covered heath care costs expected to be paid by the plan for a broad population.
Non-group and small group markets must have an actuarial value of:
-- 60 percent (bronze plans)
-- 70 percent (silver plans)
-- 80 percent (gold plans)
-- 90 percent (platinum plans)
"A bronze plan on average would pay for 60 percent of the costs for covered benefits and enrollees on average would pay the remaining 40 percent through cost-sharing such as deductibles, copayments and coinsurance.
Silver plans are likely to be the most common level of coverage because premium tax credits are based on silver plan premiums and only people enrolled in silver plans will be eligible for cost-sharing subsidies.
This means that for most services covered by the plan under these designs, the patient would pay all of the cost until the deductible is reached, and either 20 percent or 40 percent (depending on the option) of any additional costs until total patient cost-sharing reaches the out-of-pocket limit.
However, the minimum coverage people will be required to buy starting in 2014 will have much higher cost-sharing than typical employer-based coverage and than the average purchased now in the non-group market. With standard 20 percent coinsurance, a bronze plan would have an estimated deductible of $4,375 for a single individual and double that for a family. This compares with an average single deductible of $2,498 in 2010 in the non-group market and an average of $675 in employer-sponsored PPO plans with deductibles in 2011. Deductibles in employer plans paired with tax-preferred savings accounts averaged $1,908 in 2011.
People will have the option of buying more generous coverage than the minimum required, and lower-income enrollees will be eligible for cost-sharing subsidies that decrease their out-of-pocket costs. But, some may still find themselves with insurance that requires substantial cost-sharing. Policymakers will face the challenge over time of finding the right balance between the minimum level of insurance people should be required to have and providing an appropriate level of protection."
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8303.pdf
.........
Clear as mud. And none of the above even factors in the cost of buying the insurance. LOL
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The Mandated "Bronze" Policy on The Exchange will only cover 60% of the actual Health Care Cost? [View all]
bvar22
Nov 2012
OP
Bvar's quote is very similar to the Kaiser Family Foundation release on this
riderinthestorm
Nov 2012
#14
Have you ever had insurance? There's a lot of confusion about how health insurance works.
Politicub
Nov 2012
#68
it will shake out to benefit the insurance companies who wrote this legislation lol nt
msongs
Nov 2012
#7
A poor person with subsidized coverage is better able to afford primary care.
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2012
#75
Wow! Its a first - usually you are all about educating us about Obama's positions and policies
riderinthestorm
Nov 2012
#24
"Since you seemed very plugged in to this Admin, I'd be grateful for help in sorting this out. "
ProSense
Nov 2012
#29
Tried. Can't find it. So you won't help us out here with a table or graph?
riderinthestorm
Nov 2012
#32
Gee, you were all over THIS thread and many others today with LOTS of helpful links
riderinthestorm
Nov 2012
#48
Here's an apparently thorough exploration from U.S. News and World Report
Small Accumulates
Nov 2012
#52
Reccing not only for critical info about the ongoing screwing of the masses through faux "reform,"
woo me with science
Nov 2012
#60
Considering my monthly premium would be about $350 (after the tax credit)...
WorseBeforeBetter
Nov 2012
#83
And Republican-controlled North Carolina wants to reduce unemployment benefits...
WorseBeforeBetter
Nov 2012
#99
I hate all this stuff there should just be one awesome health care for all
limpyhobbler
Nov 2012
#84
That covers "Premiums" paid to the Insurance Companies for the mandated policies on The Exchange.
bvar22
Nov 2012
#112
I don't see how anyone can be happy for people who can't afford decent insurance
OneTenthofOnePercent
Nov 2012
#113
Unfortunately the ACA was written assuming you'd be covered by Medicaid. If a state doesn't opt in
PoliticAverse
Nov 2012
#131
Gee, if only someone had, what do you call it, predicted this way back then.
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#132
this health care plan is such a hodge-podge, no doubt because of horse-dealing in its passage.
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#135