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woo me with science

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2. What a reeking, steaming pile of bullshit.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:55 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:21 AM - Edit history (3)

The Grand Bargain was no victory for liberals. The Grand Bargain was a shock doctrine scam designed to force the 99 percent into accepting austerity when austerity would never have been accepted by the country had it been offered as an option by representatives who truly meant to represent us. How dare you claim that using Medicare and Social Security as hostages to get an austerity deal was a victory for liberals.

I'll tell you what the Grand Bargain gave us. The Grand Bargain gave us validation of right-wing lies and talking points about what is wrong with our economy and what needs to be done to fix it. It gave us Democratic enabling of the right-wing narrative and commitments for trillions in cuts to the budget when our own eyes, the experience of Europe, and hundreds of economists have shown us that austerity is a cruel, destructive scam for profit, a destroyer of economies and murderer of human beings. It gave us Third Way garbage rhetoric about "shared sacrifice," and it completely obscured the fact that the 99 percent have been deliberately looted and impoverished through policy for the past 30 years, escalating in the past 15.

Dems had better damned well try harder. They had better try harder to correct the larger narrative and to represent the people who gave them this election victory. We are being fed garbage propaganda trying to tell us that we will have won and should be grateful if Dems merely refrain from attacking us one more time in some particular area like Social Security or taxes. But we have already lost the big game, because this entire reeking deal will keep the Republican narrative and the march to austerity alive, along with 99.999 percent of the corporate-restructured status quo that is destroying millions of American lives as we speak.

Dems owe us much, much more than a promise not to assault us again in some isolated, particular way. We are owed a new vision, a sweeping, passionate, and sustained correction of the LIES that we have been hearing for 30 years, and a sustained, serious campaign of action to REVERSE the structural changes of the past 30 years and the damage that has been perpetrated on millions of Americans.

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Considering the lack of resonse NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #1
What a reeking, steaming pile of bullshit. woo me with science Nov 2012 #2
And that is a post! TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #7
Bravo Oilwellian Nov 2012 #10
Revisonsionist BS. NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #11
+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #12
+ 1,000 ^ upi402 Nov 2012 #18
+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #42
Terrific post - should be an OP. Raksha Nov 2012 #57
+1 PETRUS Nov 2012 #60
^^^^^THIS!^^^^^^ 99Forever Nov 2012 #67
BRAVO!!!!! This is EXACTLY how I feel! forestpath Nov 2012 #73
can you seriously believe that? hfojvt Nov 2012 #3
It is not "Reagonomics", and any attempt to paint it as such NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #20
I have to wonder Savannahmann Nov 2012 #28
Interesting post - first of all, I am NOT suggesting "surrender now" NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #31
And you thought "We need to remember that the original GB had great success for the Liberals"? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #37
How is it ridiculous hfojvt Nov 2012 #39
apparently to the OP, tax cuts are now a prime objective of the Democratic party quinnox Nov 2012 #52
tax cuts slanted so the 10% get the lion's share of the cuts ain't reaganomics? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #43
Obama is a smart negotiator gravity Nov 2012 #4
Huh? He took Single Payer off the table from the start upi402 Nov 2012 #21
did single payer ever have a chance? NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #32
You would think that all other thinking people would catch on to this. Apparently some, if sincere, AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #36
He never ran on single payer and NO Democrat in Congress would have gotten it through BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #38
Exactly! Which some people tend to denigrate. nt NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #22
Nothing can pass unless Obama signs it, and unless it passes the Democrats in the Senate. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #5
so far they've saved money by reducing provider payments. funny kind of savings. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #45
Durbin is a close ally of the president democrattotheend Nov 2012 #6
But there are a lot of people twisting his words NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #23
The Republican Party isn't the only BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #40
yeah, the tiny fringe was holding obama hostage. lol. funny stuff. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #46
I know, huh? But some are deluded enough to believe they could, BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #49
really? the fringe thought they could hold obama hostage? who is it that's delusional again? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #53
I just told you. The fringe of the Democratic Party. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #54
one wonders what you think you're laughing at. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #55
What I'm laughing at? I'm laughing at the people who constantly underestimate this BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #63
Seems obvious to anyone reading this... 99Forever Nov 2012 #68
That's your opinion. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #69
Dunno... 99Forever Nov 2012 #70
Dunno . . . BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #74
I have faith in the president to do the right thing. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #8
'Faith?' He's a politician, not a deity n/t leftstreet Nov 2012 #13
how about confidence? hrmjustin Nov 2012 #14
I guess that's better leftstreet Nov 2012 #16
If I wasn't positive i would get depressed. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #17
Don't let the small but LOUD group depress you. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #50
Step back a few feet from the thread woo me with science Nov 2012 #59
Don't worry, Woo. I see you. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #65
Even I understood that it was an informal use of the word. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #41
I couldn't get past "the original GB had great success for the Liberals." WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #9
The original GB didn't touch either one. Again, NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #24
The same types responding to your posts BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #47
LOL "Something deeper," BCD? Do tell, Dr. Freud. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #58
Well, Doubting Thomas, BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #64
LOL "Dennis Kucinich"? That's the best you can come up with? WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #71
What's it like to live with one's head in the sand? WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #61
lol quinnox Nov 2012 #15
Then you would be wrong. Google is your friend. nt NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #25
heh, this reminds me of the brief campaign quinnox Nov 2012 #27
well, perhaps you should forget your prejudices NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #33
I swear BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #44
Yep. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #34
We've got to get the ability to rec responses, because yours is one that would be recced a lot. Savannahmann Nov 2012 #29
thanks, I also think that would be an awesome feature to add to DU quinnox Nov 2012 #30
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #35
Or the ability to UNrec a responding post. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #48
have we really gotten so obsessed with competition that we're now taking bets liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #19
good point - there will NOT be a new "Grand Bargain". NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #26
So, you start a thread with an outright lie and a weak attempt to revise history, Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #51
The grand bargain was rejected. You are talking about the actual debt ceiling agreement. Vattel Nov 2012 #56
"I am glad the republicans rejected the grand bargain," and ProSense Nov 2012 #62
awesome! Vattel Nov 2012 #72
Don't assume that the President is "on your side" in all this.... YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #66
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