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BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
52. Everybody just sends out paper everywhere to see what will stick
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:15 AM
Nov 2012

The uncollectibles must be huge, but they are also probably over-billing by a wide margin. The system is unbelievable.

I just had a colonoscopy last week. The doc was great. The hospital staff were great, for people who were spending the day shoving things up my backside. No complaints about the quality of services.

(Which reminds me of a joke. Man is visiting his proctologist for a regular checkup. The doc has him drop his drawers. "This my feel a little uncomfortable, says the doc. The patient replies, "Yeah, Doc. Your wedding ring is really irritating me." The Doc says, "Oh I'm not married. That's my wristwatch. " But I digress.)

No complaints about the care. But the records make me feel like I'm in a third world country. A couple of days before the procedure I had to take a bunch of blood tests. But these are EXACTLY the same tests my GP had done just a few weeks before. These guys ought to be able to share records. Those tests were totally unnecessary. And likewise, I ended up dictating my complete medical history to three different people in the process. Again, in a world that can have a Facebook and a Google, it shouldn't be a huge challenge to have a database of medical records.

Why don't we have that? Because people are terrified about privacy.

And why are people terrified about privacy? Because of the goddamned private insurance system. It is as simple as that. If we had a universal health care system, most of us would not be all that obsessed about privacy of records.

Next up, receiving all the bills for this. Theoretically a screening colonoscopy must be covered by the insurance. But they have claimed a huge loophole. If the screening reveals ANYTHING that needs more than just a look through the scope, the insurance companies claim it is no longer a "screening" exam and therefore they don't have to cover it. That is, I have to pay the first $10,000 because that is my deductible. Almost every scope job is going to have SOME follow-up. I have a couple of tissue samples biopsied. Thankfully they were negative, but that is probably enough to push the full cost over on me. We shall see. I know I ate a $25 muffin.

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They do this I think because insurance vampires make reimbursements as difficult as possible libtodeath Nov 2012 #1
Everybody just sends out paper everywhere to see what will stick BlueStreak Nov 2012 #52
The duplicated blood tests ... where have I heard about this before? hedgehog Nov 2012 #58
There are provisions that provide an incentive to upgrade records systems BlueStreak Nov 2012 #61
Yeah, it's a clusterfuck Bradical79 Nov 2012 #2
Based on my experience, absolutely correct. & Those scammers ARE mixed in there with legit stuff. nt patrice Nov 2012 #3
Your mother's bills are not yours. former9thward Nov 2012 #4
There Are Assets - Not Much - But I'm For Paying What's Rightly Needed To Be Paid..... global1 Nov 2012 #8
You will be part of the problem if you pay unjust bills. former9thward Nov 2012 #10
I Did Say I'm Willing To Pay Any Bill That Were For Services Incurred.... global1 Nov 2012 #12
hate to say this but good luck with that dlwickham Nov 2012 #53
I've heard about that practice. Incitatus Nov 2012 #38
You better wait until you see what that balance is. I wouldn't pay anything for awhile. Hoyt Nov 2012 #39
Here is a thought - avebury Nov 2012 #42
medicare always lets us know what they have paid, adn what the totla was. In other words the medicar robinlynne Nov 2012 #46
If she had Medicare and a supplemental, Frustratedlady Nov 2012 #5
Return anything mailed to her ...mark it "DECEASED".. SoCalDem Nov 2012 #23
Good advice No Vested Interest Nov 2012 #34
this is the correct answer SmileyRose Nov 2012 #50
Unless you cosigned to pay for her care, or unless you are the executor of her estate, not yours. FarCenter Nov 2012 #6
I wouldn't pay any of them. Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #7
+1 Lugnut Nov 2012 #18
You are not legally required to pay any of her debts. Marrah_G Nov 2012 #9
The hospital here twice tried to bill the wrong insurance on me hobbit709 Nov 2012 #11
It's quite possible you don't owe them anything jeff47 Nov 2012 #13
I got bills from six different sources after I had a hernia repaired in 2006 slackmaster Nov 2012 #14
When dad fell, yup, that's is the way it is nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #15
If we have single payer health care, they'll consolidate the billing departments? hughee99 Nov 2012 #16
This Should Start At The Hospital First..... global1 Nov 2012 #17
There won't be any bills Doctor_J Nov 2012 #20
So with single payer, no one's keeping track of what was done hughee99 Nov 2012 #21
There is no billing department with single payer. robinlynne Nov 2012 #47
If there's no billing department how is a bill sent out? hughee99 Nov 2012 #49
There are none of those things in England or France. how they track expensees I dont know. robinlynne Nov 2012 #56
France has no co-pay? hughee99 Nov 2012 #60
Yup. After a trip to the hospital you'll be getting bills for a year Doctor_J Nov 2012 #19
What makes billing crazy is that services felix_numinous Nov 2012 #22
We are dealing with this now WCIL Nov 2012 #24
Labs are often off-site. Anaesthesiologists are independent., as, I think, are radiologists. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #25
True. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #28
In some cases, the docs are in an association that owns the lab, imaging facility, etc. FarCenter Nov 2012 #33
My ex is part of a "death panel" at a health insurance company... Bigmack Nov 2012 #26
Gee you all are scaring me to death. Effective Jan I will start Medicare and my secondary southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #27
labcorp. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #29
I thought they were shut down??? dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #35
then i guess i can toss out the envelope i got from them last week. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #37
FWIW... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #43
I chose my current dr. in part because they do the bloodwork in the office. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #44
I guess you haven't had much to do with hospitals lately librechik Nov 2012 #30
Nearly every hospital I have been in SoCalNative Nov 2012 #31
Write a letter to the hospital admins that until you get an itemized statement.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #32
Unless you SIGNED something agreeing to be responsible her bills, you're NOT Lex Nov 2012 #36
this kind of crap is why I haven't gone to the doctor in years renate Nov 2012 #40
I hate to say this.. but this is nothing new SouthernLiberal Nov 2012 #41
Please don't pay anything for a year! erinlough Nov 2012 #45
It's not quite the same issue XemaSab Nov 2012 #48
I would do some calling riverbendviewgal Nov 2012 #51
There is NO SYSTEM of healthcare in the USofA. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #54
Watch that you don't get charged for an ambulance ride that your mother never took. A well-known Raine Nov 2012 #55
There are plenty of people here who are helping you with your bill question. reflection Nov 2012 #57
Every hospital pays big bucks to managers, and hospital management hasn't changed in decades! hedgehog Nov 2012 #59
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