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In reply to the discussion: The Fiscal Cliff Is a Lie [View all]NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)45. How do you convince an entire public that cuts to Social Security and Medicare are unavoidable
without a "fiscal cliff" boogeyman? We are witnessing a grand deception that has been been scripted in advance, and is now being played out in DC and by much of the media. Likely it will even include some posters here on DU who will be at the ready to reassure folks that the cuts are not so bad considering the "dire circumstances" that forced them upon us. Transparent kabuki to some of us, but for many folks it is sufficient and believable. I have a sister in law that used to talk about Soap Operas she watched regularly as if they were stories about a neighbor or family member. Some have difficulty in separating reality from fiction, and that is the bedrock of their plan.
"It is the president's position that when we're talking about a broad, balanced approach to dealing with our fiscal challenges, that that includes dealing with entitlements," White House press secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday, referring to the mammoth benefit programs.
Centrist Democrats in the Senate argue that fellow Democrats must be willing to consider cuts to Medicare and Medicaid:
"It has to be both a significant revenue increase as well as spending cuts," said Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.
Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., who is retiring as chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, said rising health care costs in Medicare and Medicaid are helping to drive future spending, making them an essential part of a long-term deficit-reduction package.
"I've been part of every bipartisan group here. We've always put everything on the table," Conrad said. "If you're going to solve this problem, you're going to have to deal with where the spending is and the revenue can be raised."
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"fiscal cliff" = another Tea/Repuke fear laden lie/Kool aide/meme to intimidate the sheeple.
hue
Nov 2012
#12
Thanks for posting, Will. For more information on the fiscal cliff and the deficit, check out
truth2power
Nov 2012
#14
401(k) is an AWFUL standard to apply-- NO ONE should have their retirement hopes...
mike_c
Nov 2012
#31
Defined benefit pension plans were based on 8% return on investment -- most will go broke
FarCenter
Nov 2012
#48
Calpers has a huge unfunded liability -- estimates may vary but it is likely to go broke
FarCenter
Nov 2012
#50
You're likely to get your pension -- but 30 to 50 year olds will be holding the empty bag.
FarCenter
Nov 2012
#53
How do you convince an entire public that cuts to Social Security and Medicare are unavoidable
NorthCarolina
Nov 2012
#45
Yes, it's a lie meant to scare people, because it really is debt reduction.
grahamhgreen
Nov 2012
#57
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed....
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2012
#52
Does anyone know if there is an anti-"fiscal cliff" b.s. group on Facebook?
Arugula Latte
Nov 2012
#59