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PufPuf23

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24. About the tunnels used by Hamas in Gaza

Sun May 12, 2024, 12:45 AM

May 12

Seems logical that USA intelligence has foot on ground sources. Also working face to face at some level with IDF. Problem is foot on ground intelligence imbedded where? NGOs are questionable and viewed by some as complicit; there are certainly instances of complicity. Gaza not an easy place to be for adult male not attached to IDF.

Look at this posted October 15, 2023 ( https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218367008 )

About the tunnels used by Hamas in Gaza

Caveat: Not a military expert and probably something like this is happening just not talked about for secrecy.

But practical.

Search for and find tunnels egresses in Gaza and outside Gaza.

Start from outside Gaza and systematically search using remote sensing and whatever intelligence method works.

One could be very certain that people at the egresses and within the tunnels are Hamas terrorist.

Also stores of munitions and other items of the terrorist trade are likely in or near the egresses to the tunnels.

The tunnels may also be a means to sneak undercover IDF forces behind enemy lines, particularly tunnels that are not in current use.

The Gaza cleanup operation should destroy the system of tunnels so not available for future terrorism.

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US offering Israel intel on Hamas leaders whereabouts if Israel makes no major operation in Rafah. [View all] wnylib May 11 OP

If we have Intel on where Hamas Tickle May 11 #1

It's a short article that does not provide background, but wnylib May 11 #3

This is ridiculous. I don't believe we've been holding this type of info and worse use it for a jimfields33 May 11 #8

The US doesn't negotiate with other nations in order to wnylib May 12 #20

I agree, that is why I think the article is B.S. JohnSJ May 12 #33

Aren't they already doing that? RandySF May 11 #2

See my #3. wnylib May 11 #4

Since several of Hamas' "leaders" are sitting comfortably Buns_of_Fire May 11 #5

That's what I've been thinking all along... Think. Again. May 11 #7

I disagree. The targets are under civilian infrastructure, so wnylib May 11 #12

Agree that Sinwar deserves it, but the situation between him and Eichmann is different. wnylib May 11 #10

Sinwar is in Gaza. He's hiding in the tunnels and using hostages as a shield. So is Mohammad Deif LeftInTX May 11 #14

Would love to see him killed in this operation if the hostages around him could be wnylib May 11 #17

The fact that we haven't immediately passed that info to netanyahu... Think. Again. May 11 #6

See my #3. wnylib May 11 #13

In Qatar? Freethinker65 May 11 #9

Sinwar has always been in Gaza. He's never been to Qatar. He's hiding in tunnels. So is Mohammad Deif LeftInTX May 11 #18

Thought Hamas political leaders had been safe living lives of luxury in Qatar? Freethinker65 May 12 #21

Not Sinwar. LeftInTX May 12 #23

How would the USA have more intel about tunnels and within Gaza than PufPuf23 May 11 #11

Since it is intel, the very nature of its secrecy means that there is wnylib May 11 #15

About the tunnels used by Hamas in Gaza PufPuf23 May 12 #24

One of the problems: Egresses are in Egypt LeftInTX May 12 #26

Clear a path along the Egypt-Gaza border and find where tunnels are PufPuf23 May 12 #28

That's what I'm thinking too. The only thing holding them up are hostages. LeftInTX May 12 #30

Agree with your last sentence especially. wnylib May 12 #27

Maybe we have a magic tunnel sensor? LeftInTX May 11 #16

Or maybe we have undercover agents and informants wnylib May 11 #19

We do have ground penetrating radar on revmclaren May 12 #22

There is technology that could have assessed what is under Gaza PufPuf23 May 12 #25

But such technology is highly sensitive. Revealing what is known wnylib May 12 #31

Your move, Bibi. Joinfortmill May 12 #29

Agree. wnylib May 12 #32