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61. What's it like to live with one's head in the sand?

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:04 PM

Nov 2012

Leaked deal memo from grand bargain talks - show threat to Social Security, Medicare, safety net...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014302628

Leaked deal memo for last year’s Grand Bargain: “Obama willing to go quite far”
http://americablog.com/2012/11/leaked-deal-memo-for-last-years-grand-bargain-obama-willing-to-go-quite-far.html

Top Story — Obama’s 2011 Grand Bargain Detailed in Documents Obtained by Bob Woodward
http://www.taylormarsh.com/blog/2012/11/obamas-2011-grand-bargain-detailed-in-documents-obtained-by-bob-woodward/

The Grand Bargain: Gutting Tricare - the sacred health insurance program for the military
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/13/1160951/-Tricare-the-sacred-health-insurance-program-for-the-military

There's plenty more where that came from. And don't bother with the predictable Malleable Middle attacks on Bob Woodward and the *firebaggers.* Yawn.

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The Grand Bargain is coming! The Grand Bargain is coming! [View all] NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 OP

Considering the lack of resonse NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #1

What a reeking, steaming pile of bullshit. woo me with science Nov 2012 #2

And that is a post! TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #7

Bravo Oilwellian Nov 2012 #10

Revisonsionist BS. NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #11

+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #12

+ 1,000 ^ upi402 Nov 2012 #18

+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #42

Terrific post - should be an OP. Raksha Nov 2012 #57

+1 PETRUS Nov 2012 #60

^^^^^THIS!^^^^^^ 99Forever Nov 2012 #67

BRAVO!!!!! This is EXACTLY how I feel! forestpath Nov 2012 #73

can you seriously believe that? hfojvt Nov 2012 #3

It is not "Reagonomics", and any attempt to paint it as such NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #20

I have to wonder Savannahmann Nov 2012 #28

Interesting post - first of all, I am NOT suggesting "surrender now" NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #31

And you thought "We need to remember that the original GB had great success for the Liberals"? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #37

How is it ridiculous hfojvt Nov 2012 #39

apparently to the OP, tax cuts are now a prime objective of the Democratic party quinnox Nov 2012 #52

tax cuts slanted so the 10% get the lion's share of the cuts ain't reaganomics? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #43

Obama is a smart negotiator gravity Nov 2012 #4

Huh? He took Single Payer off the table from the start upi402 Nov 2012 #21

did single payer ever have a chance? NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #32

You would think that all other thinking people would catch on to this. Apparently some, if sincere, AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #36

He never ran on single payer and NO Democrat in Congress would have gotten it through BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #38

Exactly! Which some people tend to denigrate. nt NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #22

Nothing can pass unless Obama signs it, and unless it passes the Democrats in the Senate. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #5

so far they've saved money by reducing provider payments. funny kind of savings. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #45

Durbin is a close ally of the president democrattotheend Nov 2012 #6

But there are a lot of people twisting his words NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #23

The Republican Party isn't the only BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #40

yeah, the tiny fringe was holding obama hostage. lol. funny stuff. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #46

I know, huh? But some are deluded enough to believe they could, BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #49

really? the fringe thought they could hold obama hostage? who is it that's delusional again? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #53

I just told you. The fringe of the Democratic Party. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #54

one wonders what you think you're laughing at. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #55

What I'm laughing at? I'm laughing at the people who constantly underestimate this BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #63

Seems obvious to anyone reading this... 99Forever Nov 2012 #68

That's your opinion. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #69

Dunno... 99Forever Nov 2012 #70

Dunno . . . BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #74

I have faith in the president to do the right thing. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #8

'Faith?' He's a politician, not a deity n/t leftstreet Nov 2012 #13

how about confidence? hrmjustin Nov 2012 #14

I guess that's better leftstreet Nov 2012 #16

If I wasn't positive i would get depressed. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #17

Don't let the small but LOUD group depress you. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #50

Step back a few feet from the thread woo me with science Nov 2012 #59

Don't worry, Woo. I see you. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #65

Even I understood that it was an informal use of the word. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #41

I couldn't get past "the original GB had great success for the Liberals." WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #9

The original GB didn't touch either one. Again, NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #24

The same types responding to your posts BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #47

LOL "Something deeper," BCD? Do tell, Dr. Freud. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #58

Well, Doubting Thomas, BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #64

LOL "Dennis Kucinich"? That's the best you can come up with? WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #71

What's it like to live with one's head in the sand? WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #61

lol quinnox Nov 2012 #15

Then you would be wrong. Google is your friend. nt NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #25

heh, this reminds me of the brief campaign quinnox Nov 2012 #27

well, perhaps you should forget your prejudices NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #33

I swear BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #44

Yep. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #34

We've got to get the ability to rec responses, because yours is one that would be recced a lot. Savannahmann Nov 2012 #29

thanks, I also think that would be an awesome feature to add to DU quinnox Nov 2012 #30

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #35

Or the ability to UNrec a responding post. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #48

have we really gotten so obsessed with competition that we're now taking bets liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #19

good point - there will NOT be a new "Grand Bargain". NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #26

So, you start a thread with an outright lie and a weak attempt to revise history, Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #51

The grand bargain was rejected. You are talking about the actual debt ceiling agreement. Vattel Nov 2012 #56

"I am glad the republicans rejected the grand bargain," and ProSense Nov 2012 #62

awesome! Vattel Nov 2012 #72

Don't assume that the President is "on your side" in all this.... YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #66