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In reply to the discussion: the lies of David W, Corn [View all]JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)1) Wow, that's a right wing talking point if I ever heard one ... "cult of followers" ... kind of like Sean Hannity screaming about Obama being the Messiah.
2) Ahhh ... so you are mad that the cut off is 250k. The first 250k gets a break, the rest doesn't. But you are bugged that it goes to 250k. You'd pick a lower number. Politically, that won't work. True or not, most Americans think that a small business owner makes that much, and they also think that they might someday make that much. Also, the political reality is that the Bush tax cuts exist. They have certain aspects. We can pretend that's not true, or deal with reality.
3) No, you are not the majority. LOTS of people in that bottom 80% did not want their taxes to go up if the taxes on the wealthy went up too. Again, the polls were CLEAR on this. You would have been fine if your taxes went up some. Most average people were not.
4) Again, political reality rears its ugly head. Obama put money in the pocket of working people. He did so using one of the few mechanisms he had available. You would have preferred he use another method, one that in the current political environement, was not going to happen.
5) Back to item 2 again. You are quibbling over the cut off. Even if you move that down, the rich still get some if it, no?
And as for your 4 points, as you correctly note in that thread, none of that can pass.
Oh ... and Obama may still let them all expire.
Finally ... you seem very unhappy with Obama. I'm wondering when you will start a Progressive Prez 2016 group here on DU.
Like it or not, Obama will be President for the next 4 years. So you might want to start planning ahead.