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bigtree

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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 09:49 PM Dec 2011

So he objected to the detention provisions, but he's going to sign the defense bill anyway [View all]

In a statement, press secretary Jay Carney said the new bill "does not challenge the president's ability to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the American people."

"While we remain concerned about the uncertainty that this law will create for our counterterrorism professionals, the most recent changes give the president additional discretion in determining how the law will be implemented, consistent with our values and the rule of law, which are at the heart of our country's strength," Carney said.
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I think the President figured his veto would be overridden and took the best deal he could on the revised Defense bill. That's my two cents. That's the typical story behind these bills signed with 'objections'. Presidents figure they've gotten the best they can get out of Congress and settle. He's probably right. They will likely have the opportunity to deal with these provisions at a later date, either in implementation or in an effort to repeal them separately from the weight of the overall defense legislation. At any rate, I don't see the point in hyperventilating on this. We lost this one (figures) and we'll move the fight to amend the provisions to the future.

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lame as it ever was.... mike_c Dec 2011 #1
So, which will he be expecting to "work on" first, this or the health care plan? Brickbat Dec 2011 #2
I see this President working on several issues and initiatives at once bigtree Dec 2011 #7
He could use the veto pen Autumn Dec 2011 #3
That's pretty much how I figure it Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #5
more than talk bigtree Dec 2011 #9
"National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2011" The ProSense Dec 2011 #6
fucking kidding me bigtree Dec 2011 #13
VETO this POS... rasputin1952 Dec 2011 #8
That would require he actually take a stand and follow through on something he said dflprincess Dec 2011 #17
This is referring to FY-2011 NOT the current defense bill. n/t tammywammy Dec 2011 #10
thanks, I can't believe this came up when I searched bigtree Dec 2011 #14
And I wouldn't expect the Supreme Court to invaldiate this law as unconstitutional. no_hypocrisy Dec 2011 #11
Doubtless he'll be able to invoke a spirit of bipartisanship and collegiality . . . hatrack Dec 2011 #12
not likely this year bigtree Dec 2011 #15
This isn't an "Oh well...", what this does is kill our civil liberties and about a thousand years of TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #16
Yup. villager Dec 2011 #18
couldn't have said it better myself..wtf is happening in this country xiamiam Dec 2011 #20
I'm missing something here. Still. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2011 #19
more of the same... coup being secured..nt xiamiam Dec 2011 #21
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